Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 13 August 2006

Geesh, thanks Polly.

I mean I've even won awards for my posts on this thread a time or two in the past and I'd hate to be disqualified. So I decided to come clean and am frankly a little relieved that some of the posters to this thread might have already read it. I want to put it behind me but darn I wanted to state my piece.

A great thread it became anyway and not because of me. Many honest and hurting people came forward with their truths, yes many by Freepmail. But I SICK of the NAGS and harpies....

Okay, I'm going to stop now. It's really nothing about this thread but hey, I got into some fine rants here if I say so myself. I am ready to move on.

#268, excellent thoughts that put the whole thing in a nutshell. The ACLU/DBM/DNC are hurting our chances of getting future Terrorists stopped here,luckily the Brits are not going down that really stupid road. The entire Democrat Representation in Michigan is beholden to Muzzies,terrorist or non terrorist they don't care as long as they send them money and vote for their sorry @sses.

(((hugs)))

I missed the paragraph on the soldiers...Here is the full text of 1701:

Resolution

The full text of Security Council resolution 1701 (2006) reads as follows:

“The Security Council,

“Recalling all its previous resolutions on Lebanon, in particular resolutions 425 (1978), 426 (1978), 520 (1982), 1559 (2004), 1655 (2006) 1680 (2006) and 1697 (2006), as well as the statements of its President on the situation in Lebanon, in particular the statements of 18 June 2000 (S/PRST/2000/21), of 19 October 2004 (S/PRST/2004/36), of 4 May 2005 (S/PRST/2005/17), of 23 January 2006 (S/PRST/2006/3) and of 30 July 2006 (S/PRST/2006/35),

“Expressing its utmost concern at the continuing escalation of hostilities in Lebanon and in Israel since Hizbollah’s attack on Israel on 12 July 2006, which has already caused hundreds of deaths and injuries on both sides, extensive damage to civilian infrastructure and hundreds of thousands of internally displaced persons,

“Emphasizing the need for an end of violence, but at the same time emphasizing the need to address urgently the causes that have given rise to the current crisis, including by the unconditional release of the abducted Israeli soldiers,

“Mindful of the sensitivity of the issue of prisoners and encouraging the efforts aimed at urgently settling the issue of the Lebanese prisoners detained in Israel,

“Welcoming the efforts of the Lebanese Prime Minister and the commitment of the Government of Lebanon, in its seven-point plan, to extend its authority over its territory, through its own legitimate armed forces, such that there will be no weapons without the consent of the Government of Lebanon and no authority other than that of the Government of Lebanon, welcoming also its commitment to a United Nations force that is supplemented and enhanced in numbers, equipment, mandate and scope of operation, and bearing in mind its request in this plan for an immediate withdrawal of the Israeli forces from southern Lebanon,

“Determined to act for this withdrawal to happen at the earliest,

“Taking due note of the proposals made in the seven-point plan regarding the Shebaa farms area,

“Welcoming the unanimous decision by the Government of Lebanon on 7 August 2006 to deploy a Lebanese armed force of 15,000 troops in South Lebanon as the Israeli army withdraws behind the Blue Line and to request the assistance of additional forces from UNIFIL as needed, to facilitate the entry of the Lebanese armed forces into the region and to restate its intention to strengthen the Lebanese armed forces with material as needed to enable it to perform its duties,

“Aware of its responsibilities to help secure a permanent ceasefire and a long-term solution to the conflict,

“Determining that the situation in Lebanon constitutes a threat to international peace and security,

“1. Calls for a full cessation of hostilities based upon, in particular, the immediate cessation by Hizbollah of all attacks and the immediate cessation by Israel of all offensive military operations;

“2. Upon full cessation of hostilities, calls upon the Government of Lebanon and UNIFIL as authorized by paragraph 11 to deploy their forces together throughout the South and calls upon the Government of Israel, as that deployment begins, to withdraw all of its forces from southern Lebanon in parallel;

“3. Emphasizes the importance of the extension of the control of the Government of Lebanon over all Lebanese territory in accordance with the provisions of resolution 1559 (2004) and resolution 1680 (2006), and of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, for it to exercise its full sovereignty, so that there will be no weapons without the consent of the Government of Lebanon and no authority other than that of the Government of Lebanon;

“4. Reiterates its strong support for full respect for the Blue Line;

“5. Also reiterates its strong support, as recalled in all its previous relevant resolutions, for the territorial integrity, sovereignty and political independence of Lebanon within its internationally recognized borders, as contemplated by the Israeli-Lebanese General Armistice Agreement of 23 March 1949;

“6. Calls on the international community to take immediate steps to extend its financial and humanitarian assistance to the Lebanese people, including through facilitating the safe return of displaced persons and, under the authority of the Government of Lebanon, reopening airports and harbours, consistent with paragraphs 14 and 15, and calls on it also to consider further assistance in the future to contribute to the reconstruction and development of Lebanon;

“7. Affirms that all parties are responsible for ensuring that no action is taken contrary to paragraph 1 that might adversely affect the search for a long-term solution, humanitarian access to civilian populations, including safe passage for humanitarian convoys, or the voluntary and safe return of displaced persons, and calls on all parties to comply with this responsibility and to cooperate with the Security Council;

“8. Calls for Israel and Lebanon to support a permanent ceasefire and a long-term solution based on the following principles and elements:

-- full respect for the Blue Line by both parties;

-- security arrangements to prevent the resumption of hostilities, including the establishment between the Blue Line and the Litani river of an area free of any armed personnel, assets and weapons other than those of the Government of Lebanon and of UNIFIL as authorized in paragraph 11, deployed in this area;

-- full implementation of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and of resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), that require the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so that, pursuant to the Lebanese cabinet decision of 27 July 2006, there will be no weapons or authority in Lebanon other than that of the Lebanese State;

-- no foreign forces in Lebanon without the consent of its Government;

-- no sales or supply of arms and related materiel to Lebanon except as authorized by its Government;

-- provision to the United Nations of all remaining maps of land mines in Lebanon in Israel’s possession;

“9. Invites the Secretary-General to support efforts to secure as soon as possible agreements in principle from the Government of Lebanon and the Government of Israel to the principles and elements for a long-term solution as set forth in paragraph 8, and expresses its intention to be actively involved;

“10. Requests the Secretary-General to develop, in liaison with relevant international actors and the concerned parties, proposals to implement the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), including disarmament, and for delineation of the international borders of Lebanon, especially in those areas where the border is disputed or uncertain, including by dealing with the Shebaa farms area, and to present to the Security Council those proposals within thirty days;

“11. Decides, in order to supplement and enhance the force in numbers, equipment, mandate and scope of operations, to authorize an increase in the force strength of UNIFIL to a maximum of 15,000 troops, and that the force shall, in addition to carrying out its mandate under resolutions 425 and 426 (1978):

(a) Monitor the cessation of hostilities;

(b) Accompany and support the Lebanese armed forces as they deploy throughout the South, including along the Blue Line, as Israel withdraws its armed forces from Lebanon as provided in paragraph 2;

(c) Coordinate its activities related to paragraph 11 (b) with the Government of Lebanon and the Government of Israel;

(d) Extend its assistance to help ensure humanitarian access to civilian populations and the voluntary and safe return of displaced persons;

(e) Assist the Lebanese armed forces in taking steps towards the establishment of the area as referred to in paragraph 8;

(f) Assist the Government of Lebanon, at its request, to implement paragraph 14;

“12. Acting in support of a request from the Government of Lebanon to deploy an international force to assist it to exercise its authority throughout the territory, authorizes UNIFIL to take all necessary action in areas of deployment of its forces and as it deems within its capabilities, to ensure that its area of operations is not utilized for hostile activities of any kind, to resist attempts by forceful means to prevent it from discharging its duties under the mandate of the Security Council, and to protect United Nations personnel, facilities, installations and equipment, ensure the security and freedom of movement of United Nations personnel, humanitarian workers and, without prejudice to the responsibility of the Government of Lebanon, to protect civilians under imminent threat of physical violence;

“13. Requests the Secretary-General urgently to put in place measures to ensure UNIFIL is able to carry out the functions envisaged in this resolution, urges Member States to consider making appropriate contributions to UNIFIL and to respond positively to requests for assistance from the Force, and expresses its strong appreciation to those who have contributed to UNIFIL in the past;

“14. Calls upon the Government of Lebanon to secure its borders and other entry points to prevent the entry in Lebanon without its consent of arms or related materiel and requests UNIFIL as authorized in paragraph 11 to assist the Government of Lebanon at its request;

“15. Decides further that all States shall take the necessary measures to prevent, by their nationals or from their territories or using their flag vessels or aircraft:

“(a) The sale or supply to any entity or individual in Lebanon of arms and related materiel of all types, including weapons and ammunition, military vehicles and equipment, paramilitary equipment, and spare parts for the aforementioned, whether or not originating in their territories; and

“(b) The provision to any entity or individual in Lebanon of any technical training or assistance related to the provision, manufacture, maintenance or use of the items listed in subparagraph (a) above;

except that these prohibitions shall not apply to arms, related material, training or assistance authorized by the Government of Lebanon or by UNIFIL as authorized in paragraph 11;

“16. Decides to extend the mandate of UNIFIL until 31 August 2007, and expresses its intention to consider in a later resolution further enhancements to the mandate and other steps to contribute to the implementation of a permanent ceasefire and a long-term solution;

“17. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council within one week on the implementation of this resolution and subsequently on a regular basis;

“18. Stresses the importance of, and the need to achieve, a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, based on all its relevant resolutions including its resolutions 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967, 338 (1973) of 22 October 1973 and 1515 (2003) of 18 November 2003;

“19. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter.”

Is it not ironic that the Jewish Population in America stubbornly supports the Democrat party which is becoming more and more hateful not just to Israel,but to Jews in General, and the Leader of the RNC is a Jew?

#272, thanks for that info.

In fact, one of the diehards said, we need republicans for the duration of the "threat period"...

I just fainted.

Johnnie, what do you think is going to happen if the Israeli soldiers have been killed?

I just fainted

Actually Marks chrysalis began a couple of months ago, when he stated that we need to finish the job and cant cut and run in Iraq..

As always, thanks for the thread AB.

Did you catch ABC's token "conservative" George Will saying John Kerry's statement that the WOT should be primarily a matter for law enforcement was proven prescient by the Britain arrests?

I lost a massive amount of IQ points listening to that roundtable.

If the Israelis are smart they use the fact ruthlessly to push for a much tougher beefed up International Force with very robust ROE. The Israelis don't have our margin of error economically or logistically. I doubt they can simply turn the war back on.

Wolf: "STARTLING ALLEGATIONS FROM SEYMOUR HIRSCH!!!"

LOL! Dog bites man.

OH! The U.S. KNEW Hezbollah was going to attack Israel.

Um, next breath it's: Well, we knew what Israel would do when an inevitable attack came.

Shocking (when reported in Hisch's breathless manner).

Did you catch ABC's token "conservative" George Will saying John Kerry's statement that the WOT should be primarily a matter for law enforcement was proven prescient by the Britain arrests?

I was thinking of Jacques Al-Qerry's earlier statement that the terror threat had been exaggerated..

The entire Democrat Representation in Michigan is beholden to Muzzies,terrorist or non terrorist they don't care as long as they send them money and vote for their sorry @sses.

Yes, and you have that far-left liberal kook john conyers, who I understand already has drafted his 26 points of "high crimes and misdemeanors" to use on January 21, 2009 after pelosi takes run of the House, and conyers becomes chairman of the judicial. He will get to pull off another Nixon-style impeachment - NOT if Pubbies keep control of house.The Democrats’ Impeachment Road Map

It is really disgusting what has happened to the RATs. JFK would turn over in his grave if he could see how they are marching off the far left cliff with Soros and Dean.

John Kerry's statement that the WOT should be primarily a matter for law enforcement...

Next they'll tell us locking our doors is the best detterent to crime.

The commies hate FOXNews... but if he 'mis-speaks' on FNS... it'll get out one way or another.

That blond on his right looks like she is thinking 'here we go again - more BS'.

That the wife I believe. I bet she is thinking "How I miss this lunatic hiding under all that inherited money?"

chiller said

I don't care for Gregory, but he' asking legitimate questions, imho. His demeanor seems reasoned, absent Timmy's frothing.

and Chuck54 responded

It just seemed, to me, that Gregory was not listening to the answer at all, but was already thinking and reading ahead to the next question.

I think that he was probably somewhat medicated to keep him calm. After his meltdown over "huntingate" they probably required him to take some phenobarbital before appearing on camera. I'm not joking. I drove an ambulance for years and he just had that mildly "out there" aspect to him. Like you, Chuck, I don't think he was listening to what Chertoff said. That's typical of someone operating under phenobarbital. They concentrate very hard on their own task and are less aware of outside stimuli.

It is indeed Samantha. What is more ironic yet, is that the media sees this irony as well, yet refuses to even discuss it. It not only shows their inherent inability to discuss truth and fact, it demonstrates their complete willingness to report only what they are instructed to do so by their masters in the DNC. Today's mainstream media are nothing but ignorant democrats/liberals, whose ineptitude is only surpassed by their own arrogance.