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Prosecutor: Mackinac Bridge was target (plan for cell phones)
The Saginaw News ^ | JUSTIN ENGEL08/12/06

Posted on 08/12/2006 3:11:03 PM PDT by SE Mom

Tuscola County prosecutors filed terrorism-related charges Saturday against three men who they say bought dozens of cell phones Friday in Caro in a globally coordinated plot involving the Mackinac Bridge.

They charged brothers Adham Abdelhamid Othman, 21, and Louai Abdelhamied Othman, 23, along with their cousin, Maruan Awad Muhareb, 18, with identical counts of collecting material to support terrorist acts and surveillance of a vulnerable target with intent to committ terrorism.

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To: GarySpFc

you're a fraud, Gary.

Anyone interested can follow our little exchange on this thread and see it for themselves.


421 posted on 08/12/2006 10:01:25 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: patriciaruth

They were up to no good, that's for sure.


422 posted on 08/12/2006 10:04:22 PM PDT by tommix2
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To: SleekMaid

Sounds like a good move to me. Remember what Jefferson said about the greater spiritual strength found among those who live in rural areas. You can have a nice garden even if it is just eight feet by twelve feet.

Tunnels always have creeped me out more than bridges but looking straight down off the Golden Gate gave me shivers. I take macho pride in this and that but I would not want to stick it out in a city just so I could say I was sticking it out.



423 posted on 08/12/2006 10:04:38 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: patriciaruth

If I remember my chemistry correctly phosgene gas production needs heat. Heat such as in an explosion would disperse the gas upward, i.e., away from people. In order to produce phosgene gas it has to be in a more or less controlled environment. ( To be taken with a grain of salt because it has been over 40 years since I studied chemistry. )


424 posted on 08/12/2006 10:06:59 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's World Famous Resident Equal Opportunity Male Chauvinist Pig! Got it? :-))
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To: El Gran Salseron

Maybe I remember wrong and it's chlorine gas that is created.

I just remember it's lethal. On the bottles of phosphoric acid I sometimes use to remove soap scum from the shower, it warns not use use chlorine bleach before or afterwards.


425 posted on 08/12/2006 10:10:11 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

You are dead wrong on several points. I can prove who I am and my credentials, can you?


426 posted on 08/12/2006 10:11:12 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: El Gran Salseron

And I just checked some Diet Coke and it contains some phosphoric acid.


427 posted on 08/12/2006 10:14:16 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: mtbopfuyn

After 9/11, in California, several of the charter schools, were closed once it was realized that the funding recieved was actually going to secret training camps. Oakland, Fresno, etc., Charter schools. Nothing was said about arrests or terrorist apprehensions, but all were closed. How easy it was for them to apply for funding and get it, in the millions, from the state. Nothing surprises me anymore... and why aren't these families being scooped up by the hundreds, sent to Gitmo or deported? They have had decades to infiltrate and assimilate, waiting for their orders to Jihad. God help us. I really can't understand how Deerborn has allowed this to go on. (Muslim high school using federal funding) I guess the powers that be either have arrogant faith in preventing a catastrophy or have just kept a blind eye.


428 posted on 08/12/2006 10:15:18 PM PDT by Terridan (God help us send these Islamic Extremist savages back into Hell where they belong...)
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To: xkaydet65
Kudos to that Walmart clerk. Store policy s no more than three one time cell phones per purchase. this clerk could have denied the purchase, leaving these guys to find other sources. Instead the clerk went ahead with the order and notified the constabulary. Very quick thinking.

It was a single U.S. customs agent who suspected a Canadian of Algerian descent, although his papers were in order. She single handedly prevented the bombing of LAX in 1999 (although Sandy Berger later lied and claimed his NSA staff were responsible).

You and I and every American are soldiers on the front lines in this war. So long as Islamic Fascists infect this nation we must remain ever vigilant.

429 posted on 08/12/2006 10:16:07 PM PDT by montag813
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To: SleekMaid

"Should I feel smart or wimpish to leave the NYC area asap?"

If you feel better in a more rural area, you have no need of rationalizing your decisions, whether they're based upon some sort of gut instinct, or whether they're purely rational and practical. There are compelling reasons to choose a life outside of a major metropolitan area. Many of us have chosen to do so. The thing that sticks out in my own mind is the sheer, logistical nightmare of evacuating a large city. It's simply not possible to accomplish this with any degree of rapidity. Of course, the job opportunities and cultural amenities are compelling reasons to remain in a major metropolitan area. There are tradeoffs, either way. NYC is obviously going to remain high on any list of targets for terrorism; you're ultimately the only one who can determine how high a tolerance you have for the potential risk, though.


430 posted on 08/12/2006 10:19:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SE Mom
Tuscola County prosecutors filed terrorism-related charges Saturday against three men who they say bought dozens of cell phones Friday in Caro in a globally coordinated plot involving the Mackinac Bridge.

Color me stupid, but how the hell can one take down that giant of the Bridge with some cell phones.
Even with 18 wheelers loaded to the hilt with explosives and placed on strategic suspension points and triggered by cell phones won't take down that huge bridge.

The bridge is just too big! Heavy damage, yes, but no total destruction. My opinion mind you.

431 posted on 08/12/2006 10:21:12 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: danmar

Who would have thought that planes flown into the WTC would lead to a chain reaction of events that would cause both the towers and surrounding buildings to completely collapse?


432 posted on 08/12/2006 10:24:42 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: danmar
"So long as Islamic Fascists infect this nation we must remain ever vigilant."

Worth repeating. We're all soldiers, investigators, G-Men.....all of us.

433 posted on 08/12/2006 10:26:45 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's World Famous Resident Equal Opportunity Male Chauvinist Pig! Got it? :-))
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To: patriciaruth

Not even Osama thought the whole buildings would collapse. He thought that only the floors above where the planes hit would collapse.


434 posted on 08/12/2006 10:28:59 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's World Famous Resident Equal Opportunity Male Chauvinist Pig! Got it? :-))
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To: SE Mom

For every American moslem arrested for terrorism, we should deport 10,000 other American moslems and confiscate everything they have. That will motivate the ones here to turn in the hotheads in their communities or we get rid of them all.

Win Win situation


435 posted on 08/12/2006 10:31:02 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: El Gran Salseron

They may be even better at the engineering of destruction than they were.

Most people don't realize how close the 1993 bombing of the WTC came to an even worse disaster than the 2001 attack.

Just some more explosive and the tower bombed in 1993 would have topple and taken the other tower with it, plus what ever lay in their path below.


436 posted on 08/12/2006 10:32:32 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: WoofDog123; mgstarr
I have doubts about whether the post-revolution american colonies would have allowed muslim immigration at all if it were to have been attempted,

Quite true. In the early nineteenth century there were quite a few people who were alarmed by large numbers of Catholics immigrating.

437 posted on 08/12/2006 10:39:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: SleekMaid
Should I feel smart or wimpish to leave the NYC area asap ?

Not wimpish at all to follow your gut feelings...whatever that 'little voice' inside is speaking to you about, it is speaking to you. Listen.

438 posted on 08/12/2006 10:43:21 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: r9etb
"Seems like a rather pointless target for terrorism...."

You don't understand the purposes of terrorism?

439 posted on 08/12/2006 10:46:49 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: patriciaruth; danmar
The reason the WTC buildings collapsed from a impact-inferno at those upper levels was due to the design of the buildings.

This would not have occurred with a Sears Tower type building.

Madrid Spain Windsor Building

A similarly constructed structure that was 32-storys tall, the Madrid Spain Windsor Building (and not even as well built) completely burned out and the superstructure was left standing. Unusable yes but still standing.

W.
440 posted on 08/12/2006 10:48:44 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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