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Nobel prize winner Grass admits serving in Nazi SS
Reuters ^ | Fri Aug 11, 2006

Posted on 08/11/2006 1:25:11 PM PDT by lizol

Nobel prize winner Grass admits serving in Nazi SS

Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:37 PM BST

BERLIN (Reuters) - Nobel prize-winning German author Guenter Grass has admitted for the first time that he served in the Waffen-SS, Adolf Hitler's elite Nazi troops.

In an interview with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Grass, 78, said he volunteered for submarine service towards the end of World War Two. He was called up instead to serve in the Waffen-SS in the eastern city of Dresden.

The author, best known for his first novel "The Tin Drum" and an active supporter of Germany's Social Democratic Party (SPD), said his wartime secret had been weighing on his mind and was one of the reasons he wrote a book of recollections which details his war service. The book is out in September.

"My silence through all these years is one of the reasons why I wrote this book," the paper quoted Grass as saying in a preview of its Saturday edition. "It had to come out finally."

One of the most powerful organisations in Nazi Germany, the SS played a key role in the Holocaust, establishing and operating the death camps in which millions died.

The Waffen-SS grew into a force of 38 combat divisions with almost one million men and it was condemned as part of a criminal organisation at the post-war Nuremberg trials.

Grass was wounded in 1945 and sent to an American prisoner of war camp and later became a prominent peace activist. He said he had volunteered for army service as a way of breaking away from home and family.

"For me it was primarily about getting out of there. Out of that corner, away from my family," he told the paper.

"I wanted to put an end to that and that's why I volunteered for the army.

"It was like that for many of my generation," he added. "We were doing army service and then suddenly, one year later, the draft order was on the table. And then I realised, probably not until I was in Dresden, that it was the Waffen-SS."

Grass won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1999. He is viewed as part of the artistic movement known in German as "Vergangenheitsbewaeltigung" or "coming to terms with the past".

Grass opposed the reunification of Germany in 1990, arguing that the country would be in danger of reverting to its role as a war-mongerer.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; ghetto; grass; guentergrass; nazi; poland; ss; thetindrum; waffen; waffenss; warsaw; worldwarii; wwii
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To: Red6
But wait! Maybe I am wrong!?

Maybe Atlantic Bridge will point out that the NAZI's goose stepped with their rifle on the right shoulder and the NVA goose stepped with their rifle to their front!
121 posted on 08/18/2006 7:49:56 PM PDT by Red6 (I've been busy lately - sorry for the delay.)
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To: Red6
In which case you can display this cool pic of the Nationale Volksarmee about to be "im paradeschritt".



But then you might be told that their rifles are resting on the left shoulder...
122 posted on 08/19/2006 5:23:48 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: ketelone

Wait, Im sorry... thats the NVA.. I should say, Im Exerzierschritt.


123 posted on 08/19/2006 5:24:56 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: DustyMoment
I read Gunter Grass' Tin Drum a bazillion years ago

Same here.

It was like dog paddling through pudding.

124 posted on 08/19/2006 5:27:25 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Red6
"The SS at wars end was nearly 400,000 men in size (1944), throughout the ENTIRE war about 55,000 people served as guards at these camps at various times. 3,600 of these guards were women alone."

No matter what Hollywood tells you, nazi's crimes weren't reduced to Holocaust or to the camps in general. Millions of civilians were killed in the Soviet Union, Poland and Balkans - often by Waffen SS units. At least half of their members should have been executed.
125 posted on 08/20/2006 7:20:55 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Red6

"Of course the SS helped put down uprisings in Warsaw. What do you expect?"

The problem is that "by the way" 150-180 thousand civilians were killed.


126 posted on 08/20/2006 7:22:59 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

The Spetsnaz in the Cold War were our enemy. The Regime which created them, that they fought for, seeked to destroy our way of life, our freedom and republic. In Chechnya they did all kinds of bad things, and they were more or less state sanctioned. In Afghanistan they also were no good guys and there to the former Soviet regime look the other way. Were they bad troops because they opposed us and systematically committed crimes for which our soldiers go to jail for? Did they bring no results? Were they physically weak, mentally not tough? Were they not able to shoot straight or navigate over horrible terrain? Fighting for a bad cause does not make someone weak at soldiering.


127 posted on 08/20/2006 10:46:22 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
Sorry, looks like I didn't know what the discussion was about, however definitely not all Waffen SS unites were elite. For example most of those foreign units were a part of Waffen SS and their quality was often not very impressive.
128 posted on 08/21/2006 1:23:30 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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