Should airport security place more emphasis on profiling passengers?

cnn.com ^ | 8/11/06

[texas_mrs]

Should airport security place more emphasis on profiling passengers?

Yes 83% 40677 votes

No 17% 8605 votes

Total: 49282 votes

[freeperfromnj]

83% in favor of profiling. And that's pre-freep. Are the sheeple finally waking up?

[magua]

forget it.Put them on Jordain Air,Air Maroc,and let the rest of us on our carriers.I don't want any muslims on the same friggin plane that I'm on.

[ChocChipCookie]

Sometimes I think that any nation that can't differentiate between someone like me, a white-bread, stay-at-home mom with a bottle of liquid makeup in my purse and a 20-something Muslim man from a country like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, DESERVES to be annihilated.

[Cobra64]

Finally. The right question, succinctly well phrased, and no I'm Too Stupid to Decide option.

[Spiff]

Profile YMMs, not liquids and gels. My water bottle is not a threat. YMMs are a demonstrated threat.

I wish that the families of the victims of airline terror committed by YMMs would file a class action lawsuit against the airlines for not even attempting to keep YMMs off their flights despite that group being a known threat. PC is keeping sane security measures from being taken and people are going to die because of it.

Think about it. The only detection methods we have are xrays for solid objects, metal detectors for metal-based weapons, and explosive sniffers for SOME explosive substances. There are no liquid or gel detectors. Having millions of non-threatening passengers voluntarily dump their completely harmless water bottles, shampoo, toothpaste, and the latte they bought in the terminal is beyond STUPID! It doesn't protect anything at all. A terrorist simply has to conceal the gel or liquid on his body and there is no detection that will find it.

The recently identified liquids and gels are not the only threats. There are myriads of substances and devices that can be brought on board a plane to hijack it, damage it, kill a number of passengers, destroy it, cause it to crash, etc. Trying to screen each and every object or substance that has any potential to do any of these things is IMPOSSIBLE. Yes, IMPOSSIBLE. Totally.

Screen YMMs. The day that hindus, wiccans, Baptists, Catholics, Mormons, Jews, or whatever start blowing up planes or turning them into airborne missiles to destroy buildings we can rethink that particular security policy. Until then, YMMs should have to be carefully screened before boarding mass transit.

But, this will not stop YMM perpetrated acts of terror. They'll turn their attention to shopping centers and other gathering places. If that happens, then we'll have to take even more restrictive measures. And those sane, logical security measures will not include placing prohibitions on Gatorade and ChapStik.

[chris_ab]

In controlled studies you should not toss data (clusters of data) or allow outliers to remain unmolested/without scrutiny.

Outliers and clusters are often very interesting features of data.

Ah ta ta, there now; hands off of that Muslim data?

[Cobra64]

Hmmmhhh, should you hold your pistol pointing away from you with your index finger on the trigger..., or..., pointed towards you with your thumb on the trigger when you fire it?

Gee. I don't know about that one. Let me ask Senator Kerry.

[Gordongekko909]

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[BJClinton]

Should airport security place more emphasis on profiling passengers?

Yes		82%	67688 votes
No		18%	14492 votes
Total: 82180 votes

[Gordongekko909]

It's slipping, but not much. This isn't a big deal though, with this spread. A one-point shift is a drop in the ocean.

[dynachrome]

Yes 82% 68723 votes

No 18% 14752 votes
Total: 83475 votes

Freeped. Bump the 17% knuckleheads to bumwadistan.

[Brandie]

YES! YES! YES!



Enough is enough!

[Paleo Conservative]

In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
(a) A salesman from Utah (b) An construction worker (c) A college student on Spring Break (d) A Muslim male between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics by:
(a) Your grandmother (b) A Midwest auto-parts dealer (c) A mom and her 6-year-old son visiting from Indiana (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
(a) A bluegrass band (b) Dallas Cowboy fans (c) A tour group of 80-year-old women (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

During the 1980's numerous Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
(a) A family on their way to Disney World (b) Jesse Ventura (c) A Boy Scout Troop (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
(a) A pizza delivery boy (b) The UPS guy (c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70-year-old disabled American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
(a) A girls' choir (b) A hardware store owner (c) A secretary (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by:
(a) A Marine officer with two weeks leave (b) A plumber going to visit his mom (c) A Catholic nun (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
(a) A college-bound freshman (b) A cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A waitress (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by:
(a) A starving actress (b) A mom with a newborn (c) Twin six-year-old boys (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1995, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound international flights over the Pacific was attempted by:
(a) Hawaiian school kids (b) An decorated Vietnam Veteran (c) Twin sisters on their way to Paducah (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) A local TV weatherman (b) A dad and his two sons on a ski trip (c) A widower going to visit his grandchildren (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2000, 17 sailors died in an attack on the USS Cole (DDG 67) in Yemen by:
(a) A child in a stroller (b) A high school class on their way to visit Washington, DC (c) Newlyweds on their way to Miami (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked -- two flown into the World Trade Centers, one into the Pentagon and one into the ground in rural Pennsylvania. They were hijacked by:
(a) A retired police officer on a mission trip to Haiti (b) A firefighter going to Maryland for training (c) An paramedic on his way to vacation in Hawaii (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2002 the United States liberated Afghanistan from:
(a) USAID relief workers (b) Jewish Pilgrims (c) Christian missionaries (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl and other Westerners were kidnapped and beheaded by:
(a) The Peace Corp (b) Scottish clansmen (c) Cuban refugees (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2002, more than 330 hostages in Beslan and 130 hostages in Moscow were murdered in sieges by:
(a) Russian exchange students (b) The Red Guard (c) Church planters (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2003 the United States liberated Iraq from "The Butcher of Baghdad," but most American military personnel were killed by:
(a) Iraqi school-girls (b) Street vegetable venders (c) Women without burkas (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2004, more than 200 Spanish civilians were murdered on trains by bombs in Madrid, detonated by:
(a) Morning commuters (b) A three-year-old Chinese girl (c) Flamenco dancers (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2005 more than 50 UK citizens were killed by bombs on trains in London, detonated by:
(a) Rail workers (b) Those unable to hail taxis (c) Wheelchair-bound grandmothers (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2005, there were hundreds of casualties, men, women and children, killed by bombs in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Amman. These innocent civilians were murdered by:
(a) Construction workers (b) Farmers (c) Christian missionaries (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2005, the city of Paris, and other European cities experienced an extended period of riots and destruction. The unrest was led by:
(a) "Youth" (b) Soccer fans (c) Catholic nuns (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than 2,500 Americans have been murdered by terrorists. 35,000 Iraqi men, women and children have also been murdered by terrorists. Most of the combat and civilians casualties were the result of bombs detonated in civilian population centers by:
(a) Fruit vendors in Baghdad (b) Disgruntled transit union workers (c) Iraqi schoolteachers (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2006, hundreds of Israeli civilians have been killed by rockets launched by:
(a) the Salvation Army (b) remnants of the 'Jackson Five' (c) the cast of 'Friends' (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 2006, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound planes from the U.K. was attempted by
(a) members of the royal family (b) Japanese tourists (c) groupies of the band 'Cream' (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

Since 2001, the FBI reports that there are major terrorist cells still in U.S. urban centers. Several of these cells have been uncovered and cell members arrested. In every case, the terrorists cell members were:
(a) Southern Baptists Conventioneers (b) Lutheran Youth Groups (c) Presbyterian Elders (d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 and 40.

[djf]

At least the ones causing the problems.

Send them back to the sand dunes and scorpions, even the ones who say they are "moderates".

"Moderate" muslims won't kill you directly, they'll just wait for one of their more passionate cohorts to do it for them.

Send them all back, where they will undoubtedly kill each other. They have proved over and over and over Ad Nauseum that they have no interest and are not fit to live in a 21st century society.

[CWOJackson]

Profiling works wonderfully...as long as your enemies are THAT stupid and don't watch the news.

[taxesareforever]

I believe carrots should be allowed on without going thru security. They really hard on the wands. You ever try to stick a wand into a carrot?

[Cementjungle]

Amazing. The count is still 83% in favor of profiling. Let's see if the numbers hold.

The MSM, Dems and ACLU will remind all the lefties that this is unacceptable.

[MNJohnnie]

Ok, think about it.

Think like a terrorist. If they know we are profiling. They can dye my hair, get some colored contacts and fake id and ghost thru security busy looking the other way

Or I recruit a Cindy BanSheean Fellow Traveler type, OR I recruit some European Anarchist type, Batthist separatists, IRA goons or what ever.

Profiling may be a useful tool, it can also create blind spots in our security. It is not a magic silver bullet.

[bobsunshine]

Great list. The Anchoress has a similar list with headlines - see the link. From her website regarding those who say it's because we invade Iraq:

Because before we went into Iraq, there were no terrorist attacks anywhere…

World Trade Center 1993

Khobar Towers 1996

Nairobi 1998

East Timor 1999

USS COLE 2000

Gee whiz…looks to me like in the 1990’s we were seeing an attack (on specifically American holdings, interests or vessels) almost every 18 months, or so! Then…

New York City 9/11/01

New York City 9/11/01

Washington, DC 9/11/01

Bali 2002

But - Let’s not forget the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Lauro, during which Abu Abbas murdered wheelchair-bound Leon Klinghoffer - before taking refuge in Iraq.

Let’s not forget the 1983 Bombing of American troops, in their barracks, in Beirut.

Let’s not forget the taking of American hostages, in 1979, held for 444 days.

Let’s not forget the Munich Massacre of 1972.

Let’s not forget The Bojinka Operation of 1995.

Did President Bush’s “moronic policies” do all of that stuff? Oh, wait…we’re not seeing attacks every 18 months, anymore - are we? In fact…it looks like President Bush’s terrible policies helped foil this latest attempt, despite the best efforts by the NY Times and others to cripple necessary programs.

http://theanchoressonline.com/2006/08/11/none-of-this-would-be-happening-if-bush-hadn%e2%80%99t-invaded-iraq/