I think this will be most damaging to the airlines. I myself will be postponing flying to avoid the hassle. Expense + hassle = not worth it.
The TSA could also start profiling as opposed to strip searching grandma and 6 yr. old girls. Morons.
1 posted on
08/11/2006 5:43:28 AM PDT by
jjm2111
To: jjm2111
The TSA needs to start looking for terrorist and not some old lady with a water bottle. Were any of the terrorist caught in the UK not Muslim? NO! Why do we waste all this time when profiling would do the trick.
2 posted on
08/11/2006 5:48:31 AM PDT by
YOUGOTIT
To: jjm2111
It has taken ten years to start dealing with this problem...so things will be a little annoying for a time.
4 posted on
08/11/2006 5:55:46 AM PDT by
P-40
(Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
To: jjm2111
Yeah, but try driving from Seattle to Osaka ! ;-(
6 posted on
08/11/2006 6:02:27 AM PDT by
AmericanInTokyo
(A few clever bones tossed on gay unions, flag burning & Iraq still don't absolve GWB over BORDERS)
To: jjm2111
They really ought to offer FREE water bottles by the pallet load in the gate area. (Being offered two 4-ounce glasses of water on a 4-hour flight just doesn't cut it.)
Of course, I could just carry an empty and fill it at a water fountain in the gate area.
9 posted on
08/11/2006 6:10:37 AM PDT by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
To: jjm2111
After "several days", it won't be a threat? I don't understand this at all. It's very simple. The airlines can make this work. You get NO CARRY ON LUGGAGE, NO LIQUIDS, NOTHING ELECTRONIC. The airlines can provide entertainment, in-flight phone service, Internet, drinks, food, etc. You bring what you're wearing, and your wallet/identification. What's the cost? Maybe we have to pay an extra $20-$30 a ticket. So what - what's that worth to you and me if it means a uniformly enforceable security policy, and peace of mind that no one can bring anything on a plane and blow it up? It would require an initial, sizable investment for the airlines, but if the process of flying becomes intolerable, they're going to go down the drain anyhow.
This may be a totally unfeasible. I'm just searching for ideas. The first plane that comes down via iPod is going to absolutely cause the world to ban all carry-on electronics anyhow. Why wait for it to happen? This is their intent, and they will find a way. This is the War on Terror, and as citizens of this country, we have to fight it here whether we like it or not.
On the other hand, a female terrorist can conceal plastic explosives in creative ways. So I guess we're screwed no matter what. How depressing.
To: jjm2111
The entire TSA and Homeland Security makes absolutely no sense whatsoever until they begin racially profiling the muslim potential killers and leave my 88-year-old uncle alone!!!!
Hairspray, toothpaste...utter nonsense!
To: jjm2111
I'm for deporting all of them so we don't have to worry about profiling.
But ... in the meantime, any manufacturers who can package their liquid/gel products in clear containers would likely be able to sell all they can make.
(I realize their may be some products that shouldn't be exposed to light).
16 posted on
08/11/2006 6:20:13 AM PDT by
Let's Roll
( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
To: jjm2111
I'm flying September 5th (taking the family to Disneyland) and I can tell you I feel much safer with these new restrictions. There is nothing on the new banned list of items I really need to take on carry-on. It may take a couple of days for the airports to adjust and the lines to get back to normal, but I think this is a good move on TSA's part.
BUT how long will it be before some jerk sneaks one of the banned items on board just so they can have their names in the news or try to show how lacking security is (for political purposes)? Remember that happening after the sharp object ban after 9/11? I can see it now, " Jane Doe from Seattle from was able to sneak past TSA security a 3.5 ounce tube of hand lotion, is our airport security working?."
It's going to happen, trust me. The Drive-By Media is salivating over this kind of a story.
To: jjm2111
The new and temporary rules will make it a pain for those short trips where I can get by with just a carry-on bag.
However, from the sounds of things the only other real effect is I won't be able to carry a bottle of water on the plane with me to drink during my layover on flights with multiple legs. My basic toiletries will also have to go in checked baggage instead of my carry-on, so in the rare event that my luggage gets lost, I'll have to spend a few dollars to buy a disposable toothbrush and toothpaste, and some deodorant to get me by for a day until my luggage catches up with me.
This is a minor inconvenience, especially considering the threat.
We're at war! People need to wake up and quit whining about inconveniences that except for in very rare cases are going to take up less than an hour of their time on a bad day, and usually a few minutes.
I'm not meaning to address this to you specifically jjm2111, but more at the media that appears to be trying to be trying to rile up airline passengers to the detriment of our economic stability.
However, it does piss me off that most of the posts I've seen on these threads here on the Free Republic are from people whining about minor inconveniences, and making rather pretentious claims about how these are unreasonable restrictions.
We (myself included) as a nation, need to do a bit less grumbling about the relatively minor inconveniences, and pull together in a more unified show of support for taking the necessary steps to keep our country safe.
These may seem like little things, but how do you expect the President to build support for taking strong and necessary steps to combat terrorism, when a simple thing like a temporary ban on liquid and gels on planes in response to a verified threat causes this much grumbling among Americans.
Such an undertone of grumbling has a tendency to grow and spread and undermine the solidarity we need to face the very real threat to our nation that these terrorist represent.
While we should not sacrifice our right and freedom to try and buy peace, we also need to not complain about inconveniences.
To: jjm2111
And just what exactly is being done on the border along these same lines?.......any bet they're just as porous as ever?
To: jjm2111
Whine whine. Good grief people, they were going to murder thousands!
78 posted on
08/11/2006 7:24:28 PM PDT by
ladyinred
(Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
To: jjm2111
I guess, we will have to wait until science finds away to detect, the new threat...but the added security, is better than being propelled out the side of a B747, and falling 30000 feet to the ocean below...
81 posted on
08/11/2006 7:43:48 PM PDT by
thinking
To: jjm2111
The folks over at Eclipse Aviation are doing backflips, and rightly so.
It seems that there a large number of business travelers saying "enough is enough".
Eclipse Aviation
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