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8/11 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8.11.06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Love is a Battlefield

IDF soldier received heart shaped cookie somewhere near the Lebanon border...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; unres1701; waronmilitantislam
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To: Txsleuth

Ellis whathisname alert coming up on BOR.


2,501 posted on 08/11/2006 8:34:21 PM PDT by del4hope (The LORD will be a refuge for His people-Joel 3:16)
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To: Lizarde; All
Look with Olmert in office we can expect NOTHING with respect to the Iranian nukes so maybe it's a good thing that this whole thing happened and he gets the boot and a real man takes over as Prime Minister - I have no personal stress! (except I want a cigarette -it's been 11 days) so my judgement is not at all clouded LOL

Maybe Prez Bush knew he wasn't going anywhere with Olmert in office and said, "To Hell with it.". Prez Bush may not have been in contact with Olmert for a month but I would guess he was in contact with BiBi directly.

They know there is a no confidence vote or a resignation coming up an a lot of restless Jews in Israel.

2,502 posted on 08/11/2006 8:34:28 PM PDT by olde north church (Ned Lamont, the face of the "New" Democrat; empty words, empty suit, empty head.)
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To: Lizarde

His features are enought for me to thud, when you add the voice it becomes a double thud.


2,503 posted on 08/11/2006 8:35:19 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: bnelson44
OP3. Emphasizes the importance of the extension of the control of the government of Lebanon over all Lebanese territory in accordance with the provisions of resolution 1559 (2004) and resolution 1680 (2006), and of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, for it to exercise its full sovereignty, so that there will be no weapons without the consent of the government of Lebanon and no authority other than that of the government of Lebanon;

Well that's good but I really can't buy into the idea that the French and the Lebanese Army are going to disarm Hezbollah unless they are willing and I see nothing to motivate them to allow it except the threat of a re-invasion by Israel. You can be certain that Israel will be expected to leave as soon as the French and the Lebanese arrive and well before any possible efforts are underway to disarm Hezbollah. Once the Israeli Army is gone so is any chance for success in that effort. Only Israel can enforce 1559 and they have declined to do so.

2,504 posted on 08/11/2006 8:35:26 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Lizarde

Well..we know for sure it will last until Monday...the Israelis vote on Sunday..and I bet the next day or so is going to be "interesting"...

I am going to encourage it...but, no telling when the Lebanese Army, the French, the UNIFIL get there..and I think Israel plans on staying and cleaning out nasty hezzies until then..

Plus, I think the UN will have to start discussing Iran again..which should get interesting.

I will ask Karl...but, after there looks like there is a REASON to stop the thread...LOL


2,505 posted on 08/11/2006 8:36:04 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: del4hope

Ellis puts Free Rep in the same category as newsmax and mike savage ...


2,506 posted on 08/11/2006 8:36:11 PM PDT by olde north church (Ned Lamont, the face of the "New" Democrat; empty words, empty suit, empty head.)
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To: All

‘Next Prime Minister of Israel’: Wikipedia’s official entry for Benjamin Netanyahu says a “widely anticipated that a no-confidence vote will lead to new elections with Netanyahu becoming the next Prime Minister of Israel.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu


2,507 posted on 08/11/2006 8:36:22 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: InterceptPoint

If the Legionaires were in there it might work.


2,508 posted on 08/11/2006 8:36:40 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: jeffers

How true,,,so far the IDF is not "broked" and never will be
When the going gets Tuff,,,etc. ,,,The NEW general seems to me is a real "SNAKEY" guy,,The BIG funi was when the FOX news guy was REPORTING and the MLRS (PILLAR OF FIRE)
started to fire over his head,,bout Krapped his pants,LOL,


2,509 posted on 08/11/2006 8:37:01 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: InterceptPoint

The resolution really is not about disarming Hezbullah. Don't read more into it than is there.


2,510 posted on 08/11/2006 8:37:19 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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Persian Borders
Hassan Haydar Al-Hayat - 10/08/06//

In early 1987, the Iranian Embassy in Beirut sent surprise notices to local newspapers, magazines, and radio and TV channels. Attached to these notices were 'historical' documents. The Embassy urged these media organizations to use the expression 'Persian Gulf' instead of the Arabian Gulf. It said this would show deeper respect for history and would keep the 'good ties' between the Persian and Arab nations. Included also were maps that date back to the ages before, during and after the Persian Empire. At this time, Iran was knee-deep in a confrontation with Baathist Iraq. Saddam Hussein waged this war to protect his regime from the motto 'Exporting Revolution' hailed by Imam Khomeini. It was 'natural' for Iran to mobilize all its efforts in order to defend its Persian identity, which was a target of Arab nationalism. However, it made the mistake of addressing a State that adopted Arabism, such as Lebanon. It preferred Lebanon to any other Arab State, even those it maintained excellent ties with. Was that a real mistake or an early sign of a revolutionary phase the country has been suffering from ever since? Does this stage account for all the devastation and schisms? Does it threaten Iran's present and future with misfortunes, the least of which would be a sectarian civil war?

Hezbollah had only just been created. It tried at this time to take roots inside the Shiite sect, and, on a broader plane, in Lebanon. It also tried to forge ties with its neighbors. But these ties were not free of unrest. It denied US accusations that it was associated with the kidnappers of the US hostages. These kidnappers were affiliated to the Iranian Intelligence Service. They functioned in the framework of Iran's Jihad against the US and Western Intelligence in general. Tehran chose Lebanon to be the scene for that. The Party's manifesto was issued in February 1985: '[The Party] is committed to the authority of a wise and fair leadership. This leadership is embodied in the trusteeship of the jurisprudent (Wilayat al-Faqeeh) and in Ayatollah Khomeini, the man who started the revolution of the Muslims and their glorious renaissance'. This was not unusual in Lebanon. Each and every sect or political group had their affiliations abroad. These affiliations did not impair a minimal 'national' commitment in spite of the recurrent instances of diversion.

However, the relationship between Iran and Hezbollah took the form of a curve that no one inside or outside Lebanon ever expected. The Party in general was not able to affect this stage, given the resistance against the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon. Under the pretext of occupation, many violations were committed, not the least was commissioning Hezbollah alone with this task, as well as cleansing the Shiite sect from the communists, nationalists, Baathists and others who adopted wider political affiliations.

Israel pulled out of south Lebanon in 2000. At that time, it became clear that the Taif Agreement did not necessarily apply to Hezbollah. This agreement put an end to years of civil war and established a balanced peace between the sects. It took into consideration all the various internal and external sensitivities and interests. Under the sponsorship of both Syria and Iran, Hezbollah invented a brand new task for itself: liberating the Shebaa Farms. Most of the Lebanese had never heard or read about these farms, even in their national school curricula. This was basically aimed at securing an open window for the 'revolutionary' Iran in the region.

The helpless Lebanese State, under subsequent presidents and cabinets, had no option but to accept and adopt this pretext. It also realized that this would turn the country into a captive in the hands of an armed group and its sponsors. The current crisis unveils the danger of this dependence. The Iranian Foreign Minister showed no decency in his statement in Beirut itself. He voiced reservations about the government's plan to end the conflict. Are there any limits for Iran, given the arsenal it possesses in Lebanon?


http://english.daralhayat.com/opinion/OPED/08-2006/Article-20060810-f83791fe-c0a8-10ed-019d-d97b35ff3b0b/story.html


2,512 posted on 08/11/2006 8:37:37 PM PDT by TexKat
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Olmert’s great achievement: A Haaretz op-ed sarcastically asks, “after all, why did we embark on the war, if not to ensure that French soldiers will protect Israel from the Hezbollah rocket battery.”

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/748536.html


2,513 posted on 08/11/2006 8:37:54 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

ROFLMBO


2,514 posted on 08/11/2006 8:38:36 PM PDT by hegemony
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To: nuclady

Yes...I was on the Katrina threads..

This thread has been the best LIVE long term thread I have been on...IF a disagreement comes up...it usually just as quickly disappears.

This is a MATURE thread...and all of us have one "goal" -- for Israel and by extension America to survive the terrorism war.


2,515 posted on 08/11/2006 8:38:37 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: bnelson44

You Never Called Hitler a Christian Fascist: says Charles Wrangel, objecting to a description of Hezbollah as ‘Islamofacists’. 19:20 PDT

http://newsbusters.org/node/6927


2,516 posted on 08/11/2006 8:39:17 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Good nite pinz...thanks for all you do for us.


2,517 posted on 08/11/2006 8:39:26 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

broked=broken ?(DUH)


2,518 posted on 08/11/2006 8:39:41 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

"They are loyal to their Commander In Chief."

If you'd been watching, you'd have seen Bush jump her a for violating precisely this rule.

Re-read the above sentence, and recalculate.

I don't watch TV, I read.

Condi was the last person of record who talked to Bush before the decision was made to invade Iraq.

Condi was the first person of record to talk to Bush after the decision to invade Iraq was made.

Even Condi isn't quite sure how that decision was made, but I know this. The record is incomplete. Coulda been Cheney coulda been Rummy, coulda been Dad, coulda been a S&B crony, but as tight as Bush is with Condi, my money has to be on dad.

I've been watching Condi, hell, the whole NSC, very, very closely since mid October of 2001 and you can believe whatever you need to, but the fact is that Condi cracked on Qana day and she's been limping along ethically, operationally, and internally ever since.

Ignore that fact at the cost of ignoring any other fact.

The test of any theory is in how well it predicts the future.


2,519 posted on 08/11/2006 8:39:54 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: hegemony

It may have to switch to that if all fighting between Israel and Lebanon stops....

But, with Aug 22nd...and this plane plot..Iraq...things are just churning out there, so I think you have a good idea.


2,520 posted on 08/11/2006 8:40:46 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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