Posted on 08/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
Love is a Battlefield
IDF soldier received heart shaped cookie somewhere near the Lebanon border...
I KNOW! I had the popcorn ready and everything too...
I know they will try...
That was a different time...the Muslims can be trusted to uphold thier end of the bargain....(pst..yes that was tongue and cheek..let's just say they arent the best business partners either)
Yes, Euro. I agree fully with that and am sitting here with a sickening feeling in my stomach.
No one likes war, but the west seems to have lost the strength of purpose to fight the good fight to preserve our way of life.
And just today I received my necklace which is a Star of David with a cross inside the star to show my support for Israel. They deserve better than Olmert.
Bibi must be going out of his mind.
I am hoping it was just a small number and not representative of the whole operation..perhaps it was for another reason way they came back(can't think of one thoug)
Let's not overreact here.
This was a minor operation. And based on what's happened, thta's all the govt ever really intended it to be.
A setback, like Fallujah 1.
In 30 days, the IDF has lost around 60 guys, a few tanks and vehicles, 2-3 choppers, no planes, no artillery, etc...
You're acting like there's just been an unconditional surrender signed like there was at Rheims and that multiple arab divisions are on the outskirts of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv
Whie this isn't a positive development, it is necessary one to remove Olmert and Kadima from power and to get Likud back in.
In the long run, this will be a positive for Israel and the US.
en masse? that inflow/outflow of tanks has been going on for days.
I can just see Assad and Imanutjob on the phone right now - "and they call us crazy"
Israeli warplanes bombed two electricity transformers in south Lebanon on Friday night, plunging the port city of Tyre into darkness, security sources said.
The strike came a few hours after Israel said it was expanding a ground offenssive against Hizbullah in the area. (Reuters)
Hell, they should just haggle each other to death
"really, I think the best we can hope for is that they take some strategic positions - so they can enter the ceasefire from a position of strength. that's the best it can be."
Agreed
IDF version of WHACK-A-MOLE !
Two hours behind here, as you can see...anyhoo...
IF (sorry JV, one is one) SA threatened to cut production a million bbls a day, then what happens to the price of gasoline if Bush votes "Yes" at the UN, then leans over and whispers, "Pssst, Olmie, go for the Lit, ya got 3 days"?
Follow-up question: Is that when Abdullah starts wink-winking up a sandstorm?
They held off the vaunted Israeli juggernaut to a draw.
Sad.
Is that how they say in Hebrew HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!??
Just checking in... has Nasrallah agreed to any of this publicly yet?
Their Jimmy Carter.
From NRO
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
What the bush administration is thinking [Rich Lowry]
Here's what I'm told:
They're confident the resolution will pass.
They say that all their red-lines were met: no return to the status quo; Israeli security situation is improved; Lebanese government is strengthened. They say they are quite pleased with the resolution.
The resolution clearly puts the blame for the war on Hezbollah. Some other drafts didn't.
It calls for a cessation of hostilities, which is not the same as a ceasefire. It means Hezbollah is to stop rocketing Israel, and Israel will stop its offensive operations. But Israel can maintain its forces in Lebanon.
A very robust international force will move in as the Israelis withdraw. French efforts to have Israel withdraw first, creating a vacuum that could be filled by Hezbollah, have been beaten back. Israel will withdraw in parallel with the deployment of the international force.
From Israel's perspective, it gets its major goal of ousting Hezbollah from the south from this resolution, if the international force works.
Over the last four weeks Israel has managed to do serious damage to Hezbollah, and has re-established its deterrence.
Israel has always wanted the Lebanese army in the South, and that will happen with this resolution too.
Israel supports this resolution, although there has been a lively debate over it. It gets them what they want.
Israel never told the administration not to get a resolution so it could proceed with its offensive. Israel wanted a resolution, so long as it meet its standards.
The ballyhooed Israeli ground offensive helped the administration get a better resolution. And if the process had fallen apart today, Israel was in position to follow through with its offensive.
The resolution describes the international force in outline. It will still be called UNIFIL, but will be different from UNIFIL, more robust. The resolution describes the mandate and size of the force. The force will be up to 15,000. The rules of engagement will be robust.
There won't be a full ceasefire and Israeli withdrawal until the international force is deployed, creating an incentive for it actually to happen and happen quickly.
There is an issue with the time difference in Beijing with the Chinese delegation getting its instructions, but the resolution should pass tonight.
This is all from one source, so take it with a grain of salt and none of the characterizations here represent my views, but the views of the source.
but the problem for the West has never been regarding the means to fight - its the WILL to fight that is the problem. that's the dissapointment here.
no one here is claiming israel has "surrendered".
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