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Don't LET Up: The transatlantic air plot and the problem of British Islam.
The Weekly Standard ^ | 08/10/06 | Stephen Schwartz

Posted on 08/10/2006 3:28:06 PM PDT by Pokey78

BRITISH AUTHORITIES have been slow to acknowledge openly the Pakistani-Muslim background of the suspects arrested in the mass terror conspiracy that brought chaos to British and American airports Thursday. At first, official sources in the United Kingdom would confirm only that they were working with "the South Asian community" on the case; then it was disclosed that the Pakistani government was involved in the investigation.

This reticence in naming the focus of so significant a terrorism inquiry is a symptom of the larger problems of Islam in Britain, and of "Euro-Islam" more generally. Put plainly, Pakistani Sunnis in Britain--more than a million strong--are the most radical Muslims in Europe. British Islam is dominated by Pakistan-born clerics. It is saturated with extremist preaching, media, and charity efforts which support the recruitment of terrorists.

News from Pakistan itself indicates the main trail from there to Heathrow. British and Pakistani sources linked the plan to the Pakistani government's house arrest of Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, founder of the armed paramilitary movement Lashkar-e-Taiba (LET, or Army of the Righteous). LET, which is designated a terrorist organization by the State Department, is an ally of al Qaeda and is present wherever Pakistani Sunnis congregate and violence is hatched.

In America, LET was behind the Northern Virginia jihad network, whose members were jailed beginning in 2003 and sentenced to varying federal prison terms for terrorism-related acts. LET was also accused in the Bombay train bombings in India last month. It has significant resources in Pakistan, Britain, and elsewhere.

Yet notwithstanding the courage of Tony Blair, the British government appears paralyzed in dealing with this radical influence over British-Asian Muslims. Instead of confronting Pakistani-born extremist imams on British territory, the Brits organized a roadshow in their Muslim communities under the rubric of "the radical middle way"--an extraordinarily inept promotional conceit--in which young Muslims are called to renounce extremism.

The British and other media are referring to the arrested suspects in the airline conspiracy--as they did when bombs exploded in the London Underground last year--as "homegrown." If history is any guide, politicians will soon wring their hands and ask why people brought up in the West turned so violently against it. Leftists and isolationists will blame the war against terror for terror.

But the force that drives mosque congregants and their children to build bombs in Britain does not originate in social conditions experienced by Muslims in Europe. Rather, it represents a doctrine brought from the Arab world, via Pakistan and well-funded groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba, to communities from Birmingham, England, to Fairfax, Virginia.

Britain must take off the blinders of political correctness when examining Islam in its Pakistani population and should insist on British training for Muslim clerics officiating on its soil.

Otherwise, London's 7/7 bombs and the latest transatlantic travel conspiracy could mark the emergence of Britain as the main theater of jihadist violence in Western Europe.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombaytrainbombings; crushislam; hafizmuhammadsaeed; islam; jihadinamerica; lashkaretaiba; let; londonairlineplot; muslim; saeed; stephenschwartz; virginiajihad; wot
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1 posted on 08/10/2006 3:28:09 PM PDT by Pokey78
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Good job Britain in stopping this attack, now wake up and smell the terrorists(phew, what a stink).


2 posted on 08/10/2006 3:30:22 PM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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I know the brits are big sci-fi junkies, so I'll use an analogy from the world of science fiction...they need to Remember Captain Kirk's words about Klingons in Star Trek IV...or was it V...maybe VI...ahhh well...


3 posted on 08/10/2006 3:31:02 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Pokey78
Britain must take off the blinders of political correctness...

They may. They may do it long before we do.

4 posted on 08/10/2006 3:32:15 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Pokey78
It's far more than a British problem. We've got it growing right here but authorities are too politically correct to say so.

On this link as a video about 15 minutes long of an interview with 3 former terrorists (including Walid Shoebat) but most interesting is the guy who was born and raised in Dearborn and say that it's where he learned islamic extremism. Difinitely recomended viewing in my opinion.

Former terrorists speak
5 posted on 08/10/2006 3:34:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Pokey78

One man stands alone in the breach--George W. Bush. Tony Blair stands warily with him. But make no mistake about it. George W. Bush is the leader who has the fortitude and the guts enough to protect the United States and provide the leadership for the rest of the faltering hesitant Western democracies. Olmert's back is to the wall - it is life and death every day of every month in Israel. The insane Islamofascists must be defeated, wholly destroyed, there can be no accomodation.


6 posted on 08/10/2006 3:35:24 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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7 posted on 08/10/2006 3:37:07 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: Pokey78

Send ALL the bastards home --- quickly.
Or - treat them as the rabid dogs they mimic..

Semper Fi


8 posted on 08/10/2006 3:37:24 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Negative white population growth and unfettered socialism is a death wish.


9 posted on 08/10/2006 3:37:50 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: cripplecreek

There may be a hundred such plots being developed right now. Maybe a thousand. Actually, counting Iraq there are several coming to fruition every day. And increasing.


10 posted on 08/10/2006 3:40:00 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Jackknife

Stephen Schwartz is an American and a convert to Islam -- sufi variety, I think. Still, he is strongly anti-terrorist.


11 posted on 08/10/2006 3:40:06 PM PDT by joylyn
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It's interesting. In the video all three former terrorists agree that it's a good thing to fight them in the mideast because the violence attracts them like flies to honey.


12 posted on 08/10/2006 3:42:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

There were Klingons in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. Is that any help?


13 posted on 08/10/2006 3:50:24 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Pokey78

The problem is with all kinds of islam.


14 posted on 08/10/2006 3:50:40 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness +death. That why they like islamofascists.)
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To: patriciaruth
There were also Klingons in The Undiscovered Country (I think it was VI).
15 posted on 08/10/2006 4:01:36 PM PDT by CremeSaver (Prayers for Israel.)
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It was in the "Undiscovered Country." where Kirk uttered the words "He never trusted Klingons and the Federation should let them die."


16 posted on 08/10/2006 4:02:25 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Jackknife
You're one of the very few in the West (even among us FReepers) who will define the true enemy!

"IT'S ABOUT ISLAM, STUPID!"
17 posted on 08/10/2006 4:13:19 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA NECCES EST!)
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Today, I've seen many TV news commentators and reporters say that the reason Western born Muslims are angry enough to want to kill us, is because they are victims of racism and feel rejected by society. They say we need to help integrate them into our society. The problem with that is the fact that Radical Muslims don't want to be integrated into our society. They don't want to "integrate," they want to "dominate." Liberals are hopeless fools. They stand in the way of our taking action to preserve and protect our very lives. Their power and influence must be swept aside if we are to win the war with Islamic Nazism.


18 posted on 08/10/2006 4:15:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

It's the 30's all over again ..... people better say OUTLOUD who the enemy is.


19 posted on 08/10/2006 4:26:16 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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But the force that drives mosque congregants and their children to build bombs in Britain does not originate in social conditions experienced by Muslims in Europe.

He's absolutely wrong about this point. The "social conditions experienced by Muslims in Europe" is one of the key influences in the rise of radical Islam there. One of the things it seems nobody wants to admit is that Europe's welfare culture is a prime breeding ground for this kind of sh!t because it allows these morons to live on public assistance in government-paid housing and go to these mosques every day instead of dragging their @sses out of bed and earning an honest living.

20 posted on 08/10/2006 4:49:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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