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8/10 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/10/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

An Israeli soldier avoids dust as a military helicopter prepares to land on the Israel-Lebanon border August 9, 2006 to evacuate troops injured in fighting in southern Lebanon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; middleeast; waronmilitantislam
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To: tarheelswamprat

I hope you are enjoying Pete Sessions...isn't he the one that beat Frost?


341 posted on 08/10/2006 9:50:43 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: silentknight

What posters knew of the UK thing before it happened?


342 posted on 08/10/2006 9:51:51 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Txsleuth

WOW...I have the whole thread to myself...what kind of mischief can I get into.........


343 posted on 08/10/2006 9:53:07 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Bush: US at war with Islamic fascists



US president says plot foiled by Britain to blow up flights to United States ‘Stark reminder’ that America is ‘At war with Islamic fascists’
Reuters


US President George W. Bush said on Thursday a plot foiled by Britain to blow up flights to the United States was a “Stark reminder” that the United States is “At war with Islamic fascists.”


Bush said that the United States was safer than before the Sept. 11 attacks, but it was still not completely safe and it would be a mistake to believe there was no longer a threat.


Bush launched a global war on terrorism after the 2001 hijacked plane attacks on New York and Washington killed nearly 3,000 people. Faced with public discontent over the 3-year-old war in Iraq, he often tells Americans the threat remains.


Bush, speaking briefly on a visit to Green Bay, Wisconsin, said the foiled plane plot was “...A stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation.”


The US Government heightened security on passenger planes and barred air travelers from carrying liquids on Thursday after Britain said it had foiled the plot.


US Officials said the aim was to blow up the planes in flight. Two officials said there were no signs the attacks were directed at any one city, but they might have taken place on flights heading to major US cities.


Al-Qaeda?


Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the Islamic militant group al Qaeda might have been involved.


“This operation is in some respects suggestive of an al Qaeda plot, but because the investigation is still under way, we cannot yet form a definitive conclusion. We’re going to wait until all the facts are in,” He told a news conference.


White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush had talked twice by phone with British Prime Minister Tony Blair about the plot -- on Sunday and Wednesday. Bush called the cooperation with Britain, the chief US Ally in Iraq, excellent.


The Department of Homeland Security said it took the unprecedented step of raising the threat level for commercial flights originating in the United Kingdom to “Severe” Or red, its highest level.


The threat level for all other commercial aircraft operating in or destined for the United States would be raised to “High,” or orange, Chertoff said.


The United States said the plot involved liquid explosive ingredients, and US Homeland Security barred passengers from carrying liquids, including beverages, hair gels and lotions, aboard planes.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3289455,00.html

(08.10.06, 19:42)


344 posted on 08/10/2006 9:54:15 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Txsleuth

LOL


345 posted on 08/10/2006 9:54:58 AM PDT by angelwings49 (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket??)
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To: goldstategop

How many brave Israeli warriors are in the field dying while the diplomats pretend to solve the problem and Olmert holds back overwhelming force?


346 posted on 08/10/2006 9:55:21 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Knitting A Conundrum



Finnish FM: Israel destroying Lebanon, not Hizbullah



Erkki Tuomioja: ‘Europeans never believed there was a military solution to the conflict in Lebanon... Everyone always seems to think they have to come out in a position where they can declare military victory when in reality everyone has lost'
Reuters



Israel could be destroying Lebanon while leaving the guerrilla group Hizbullah intact, Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja said on Thursday. Tuomioja also said it was “Very frustrating” that it was so difficult to reach agreement on a ceasefire, because the Europeans never believed there was a military solution to the conflict in Lebanon, now in its fifth week.


“The real worry ... Is if you (Israel) set out to destroy Hizbullah, you may end up destroying Lebanon but leaving Hizbullah intact. Unfortunately that seems to have happened,” The minister, whose country holds the European Union’s rotating presidency, told Reuters in an interview.



'A fact of life'



Israel, without opposition from its ally the United States, decided on Wednesday to expand its ground offensive, after failing during the first four weeks to achieve its original military objectives against the Hizbullah guerrillas. Israel has said it wants to drive the guerrillas back from the Israeli border so they cannot fire rockets into Israel.


The European Union has called for an immediate end to hostilities while the United States has argued against a ceasefire until there is agreement on long-term security arrangements including a way to disarm Hizbullah.


Tuomioja said: “Everyone always seems to think they have to come out in a position where they can declare military victory when in reality everyone has lost. This is a fact of life. This is the same for Hizbullah.”


He said European governments were still willing to consider taking part in a peacekeeping force in south Lebanon, under the right conditions and with a strong mandate. But he added: “The longer this continues, the more difficult it will be, because the risk will be perceived to have grown and the willingness to contribute will become less.”


An Israeli attack which killed four UN observers in south Lebanon on July 25 had made it politically difficult for Finland and Austria to send forces, he added. A Finn and an Austrian were among the four observers.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3289453,00.html
(08.10.06, 19:49)


347 posted on 08/10/2006 9:56:02 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Txsleuth
He said the "Bush ADMINISTRATION has not taken it seriously".

That reads a bit more honestly...I know you weren't trying to change the intent.

IMO, Homeland security should immediately void all cellphone purchases and delete all available minutes on these phones purchased at places like K-Mart. Give them case refunds...if they show up in person, have their photo and ID checked. ;^)

If they can't trace or track them, render them useless.

348 posted on 08/10/2006 9:56:20 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: seekthetruth

Hawaii, I think, playing golf.


349 posted on 08/10/2006 9:58:07 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: All
Narrative of the life of Ahmed Anami (9/11 hijacker):

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftajdeed.org.uk%2Fforums%2Fforumdisplay.php%3Fs%3D4f7adaa09eaec46b00461483f3c9aa0a%26forumid%3D10&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Don't bother reading it.....So much allah-fubar crapola

I post it only as a rebuttal to 9/11 conspiracy nuts

350 posted on 08/10/2006 9:58:46 AM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: DCPatriot

People have talked once again how hardcore the islamic ghettos (or enclaves, if you prefer) in the UK are...more radical, probably, than the people back in Pakistan...the barbarians are not at the gates, their inside being nurtured by the ones they want to destroy....


351 posted on 08/10/2006 9:59:38 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Txsleuth
Hello,

You aren't alone...good to see you!

:)

Glad to be here, MOgirl
352 posted on 08/10/2006 10:00:05 AM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: Txsleuth

Mention, not discussion, of potential diplomatic breakthrough at UN on Fox...but then they shifted.


353 posted on 08/10/2006 10:01:58 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum


Peretz Will Not Announce Date for New Offensive
19:45 Aug 10, '06 / 16 Av 5766

(IsraelNN.com) Defense Minister Amir Peretz said Thursday he will not tip off Hizbullah terrorists by announcing in advance if and when the IDF will widen its retaliation in Lebanon. The government has given the green light for the army to advance at least to the Litani River in an effort to keep Hizbullah terrorists out of range from Israel.

He said a widened offensive would be carried out only if diplomatic moves fail. United States State Department David Welch is meeting with government officials at this hour in a last ditch attempt to save a proposed draft resolution from crumbling.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/index.php3


354 posted on 08/10/2006 10:06:00 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: BurbankKarl

I am not sure if I can post this link, but it was from The Onion.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/51351

It was a little bit funny.


355 posted on 08/10/2006 10:07:10 AM PDT by racing fan (Go Team Israel!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
With the airline alert front and center, the Israelis should go all-out with their offensive and clean up Lebanon.
356 posted on 08/10/2006 10:09:02 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
0:08 Author Grossman: Aggression in Lebanon exceeds Israel`s need for self-defense (Haaretz)

20:07 Deal on cease-fire in Lebanon very close to being consummated (Channel 2)

19:56 Hezbollah launched 165 rockets at northern Israel on Thursday (Israel Radio)

357 posted on 08/10/2006 10:10:07 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: angelwings49

You notice I couldn't think of anything...sigh

My imagination batteries are run down today.


358 posted on 08/10/2006 10:10:14 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((ISRAEL)))))))))
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To: Txsleuth
I hope you are enjoying Pete Sessions...isn't he the one that beat Frost?

I believe so, but I'm no longer in Texas. I had to return to North Carolina several years ago due to family obligations, but I still remain a "Texan by Choice". /grin

re: WOW...I have the whole thread to myself...what kind of mischief can I get into.........

Just remember, power corrupts, and absolute power ... aaah ... never mind ... just enjoy yourself, and try not to break anything...

359 posted on 08/10/2006 10:10:18 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (You can kill all the orcs you want but ya gotta take the ring to Mordor to end it...)
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To: Txsleuth

This is the World War 3.5 thread. Our possible home for the next few years :^(


360 posted on 08/10/2006 10:12:15 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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