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Murtha is assailed for daring to speak out
Centre Daily/Phil. Enquirer ^
| 8/6/06
| Editorial staff
Posted on 08/09/2006 4:06:54 PM PDT by Coop
John Murtha... is taking obscene criticism from the right for daring to point out that the Bush administration has given our troops an all-but-impossible job in Iraq.
The 17-term congressman had already inflamed the Swift Boat crowd last year by calling for a rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces.
The fallout reached a ridiculous low point last fall when a Republican congresswoman who'd never been within several time zones of a battlefield called Murtha, winner of two Purple Hearts, a coward on the House floor. [Coop note: Any bets as to how close any of these editors ever came to a battlefield?]
Now, incredibly, the partisan rhetoric is even more vile. Murtha is being called a traitor and a "fifth columnist" because he responded to reports of a possible massacre in Haditha, Iraq, by lamenting that Marines shot Iraqi civilians "in cold blood."
The descriptions of what happened in Haditha on Nov. 19, 2005, are among the ugliest to come out of the war. The Marines said initially that civilians were killed in crossfire with insurgents after a bomb killed a Marine. A military probe since then has amassed evidence that Marines may have deliberately shot and killed 24 civilians, including children, in a house-to-house search, and that attempts were made to cover up the incident. [Coop note: A military probe, which you're apparently so fond of, has already concluded there was no cover up. Get up to date... on a whole host of issues!]
Murtha's point was that such incidents are an inevitable result of leaving troops too long in the middle of an emerging civil war with no clear mission.
That's not the talk of a traitor... A country that can't handle that kind of debate is a country that can't handle democracy.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abscam; cutandrun; exmarine; irey; murthawatch
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To: Coop; LadyX; marine86297; kellynla; tet68; MudPuppy; A.A. Cunningham; Lancey Howard; ...
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To: cdtletters@centredaily.com
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:26 AM
Subject: Editorial | Murtha is assailed for daring to speak out
In response to your editorial of Sun, Aug. 06, 2006
Your editorial defending Jack Murtha shows you have no clue what the argument is all about concerning the anger against EX-Marine Jack Murtha.
Jack Murtha spoke about a story that was leaked to him by his inside contacts in the DOD, people who should have kept their mouth's shut about ANY information, true or false, especially about something as potentially sensitive as the accusations Murtha made about his own countrymen.
Jack Murtha repeated something that was known as raw data, not something that is the result of an investigation.
NIS had NOT issued any report, neither did NCIS or the Marine Corps itself, so what ever Jack Murtha said, it was just hearsay at best when he said it!
Also, importantly, Jack Murtha has shown absolute disregard for the innocence of the accused before any official fact finding, or Article 32 hearing of any kind. As an elected representative of Pennsylvania and a Ex-Marine former officer, he is without excuse, for he clearly knew the difference about the information he received and the manner in which he released his comments to the media.
Which brings up this final point: It is obvious that Jack Murtha did not do this action for the sake of keeping the reputation of the Marine Corps clean, or the honor of his country clean, he did it to tarnish the efforts of the sitting President of his opposing political party. A Marine officer knows the difference between supporting the Commander in Chief whom he disagrees with, and opposing an opponent rightly or wrongly, and to deliberately make statements about people he knows nothing about from sources which leaked classified information to him before any fact finding investigations and prior to any Article 32 hearings of whether there is going to be a trial at ALL show Jack Murtha is NOT a patriot, he is just a loudmouth with no honor and no longer deserves the title, Marine.
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/contact_us/
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/opinion/15206949.htm
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:31:12 PM PDT
by
RaceBannon
(Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:32:09 PM PDT
by
devolve
(fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
Smart kid.
Hayden Malloy, 3, shies away from U.S. Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., left, as he enters a campaign stop for Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell in Carrolltown, Pa. on Wednesday, Aug. 2, 2006. A Marine Corps sergeant under investigation in connection with the deaths of 24 Iraqi civilians in Haditha is accusing Rep. John P. Murtha of defaming him in public comments about the case. (AP Photo/Keith Srakocic)
Help the 'Pendleton 8' and their families.
The 'Pendleton 8': A look at the 7 Marines and Navy corpsman charged in Hamdania incident
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670877/posts
VIDEO-Camp Pendleton demonstration for Marines
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1655852/posts
Marine families wait and worry; (Frustrations, anger expressed by relatives of Pendleton 8)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1671948/posts
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Attorney: Col. visited Pendleton 8 before announcing charges
Navy Times article - 07/28/06
Accused troops' supporters busy fundraising - Hamdaniya / 'Pendleton 8' defense funds ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1654104/posts
Dozens rally at Camp Pendleton gates(24 June 2006) ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1655341/posts
Military justice under spotlight in Hamdania case - 'Pendleton 8' - 7 Marines, 1 Navy Corpsman ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1655333/posts
Lawyers for Marines, medic plan counterattack in Iraq murder case - Hamdaniya - 'Pendleton 8' ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1656712/posts
FREE REPUBLIC EXCLUSIVE: DIRECT INFORMATION ON THE 7 MARINES AND SAILOR HELD FOR MURDER
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1659084/posts
Defending the accused: Many attorneys in Hamdania case practiced law .. in military - 'Pendleton 8'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1659351/posts
Letter reportedly from accused servicemen expresses thanks(Camp Pendleton 8)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1660140/posts
Delay is likely for (Camp)Pendleton(8) hearings
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1668925/posts
Attorneys for accused troops say Marine Corps hampering defenses
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1669976/posts
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Some of the familes and supporters of the 7 Hamdaniya Marines & a Navy Corpsman, now charged with multiple criminal offenses, have setup web sites for use in accepting donations for legal defense funds or sending notes of encouragement and support to the detainees and their families.
Cpl. Robert Pennington
http://www.defendrob.com
PFC John Jodka
http://www.innocentmarine.com
Tyler Jackson
http://www.fightingfortyler.com
Cpl. Marshall Magincalda
http://www.defendourmarine.com
Cpl. Trent Thomas
http://www.defensefundformyhero.com
Lance Cpl Jerry Shumate
http://friendsofjerry.blogspot.com/
Hospital Corpsman Third Class Melson J. Bacos
http://patriotdefensefund.com/
Other sites supporting the men:
http://www.defendthetruth.com
http://www.warrior-fund.org
If your financial situation permits, please help as you can to cover legal representation costs.
Thanks!
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:34:34 PM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
To: devolve
LOL, kinda looks like I feel! Plus the roar.
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:38:35 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
And you zip out the perfect animated reply in seconds!
86
posted on
08/09/2006 9:44:45 PM PDT
by
devolve
(fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
To: devolve
That pig's not flying! But could be.
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:47:18 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
That would be a sight
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:50:19 PM PDT
by
devolve
(fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
To: RaceBannon
Amen! Amen! and Amen!
The letter is outstanding.... Loved it....
A lot less profane than I would have submitted, but nonetheless outstanding...
Murtha MUST pay a price....
Semper Fi
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:55:31 PM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: devolve
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:55:54 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: Coop
The editorial staff of this Philly fish wrap - should ALSO pay a price for writing this piece of tripe...
I would love to hear that subscribers in PA, call in thousands of subscription cancelations tomorrow..
The bastards have a right to give their opinion -- but Americans don't have to pay for the insults to their intelligence or convictions..
Our local paper - the San Jose Murky News - is already paying the price for their constant leftist drum beat...
Make em all pay...
Semper Fi
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:59:02 PM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: RaceBannon; Jeff Head; Coop; Just A Nobody; smoothsailing; RNO1; JRios1968; rlmorel; Little Bill; ..
Excellent letter!
The editorial is shameful......just like Murtha.
The writers have no problem with Murtha's despictable pronouncement which made no presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Murtha was not 'debating' foreign policy he was defaming & slandering the Pendleton 8 before they were charged with anything!
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posted on
08/09/2006 9:59:03 PM PDT
by
JulieRNR21
(Go Katherine "ALL your base are belong to us." Go here:http://www.ElectHarris.org)
To: Jeff Head
We must stand and fight them at every turn and never give in, never give up. I hear you loud and clear! I will be standing up to them at least twice this week-end. July 4th I scared one of their big, tough men. Kristinn was LOL!
They are loosing the media war IMHO
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posted on
08/09/2006 10:03:26 PM PDT
by
Just A Nobody
(NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
To: potlatch
The high-flying Murtha Brothers
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posted on
08/09/2006 10:06:15 PM PDT
by
devolve
(fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
To: JulieRNR21; RaceBannon
Murtha was not 'debating' foreign policy he was defaming & slandering the Pendleton 8 before they were charged with anything! Just exactly right!
I agree it was a very good letter Race!
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posted on
08/09/2006 10:11:31 PM PDT
by
Just A Nobody
(NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
To: Mo1
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posted on
08/09/2006 10:59:36 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
To: Coop
John Murtha... is taking obscene criticism from the right for daring to point out that the Bush administration has given our troops
an all-but-impossible job in Iraq. Oh Good lord! What complete and utter nonsense!
Hey johnny boy, it's called politics, "if you can't stand the heat..get out of the kitchen"
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posted on
08/09/2006 11:04:53 PM PDT
by
Valin
(http://www.irey.com/)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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posted on
08/10/2006 3:02:24 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: Coop
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posted on
08/10/2006 3:02:43 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: Coop
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posted on
08/10/2006 3:21:34 AM PDT
by
W04Man
(Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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