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Yahoo News Photo [Another fake photo? Follow-up to thread pulled minutes ago]
Yahoo ^ | 8/8/6 | Mohammed Ballas

Posted on 08/09/2006 7:52:44 AM PDT by ZGuy

A Palestinian militant fires toward Israeli troops during an arrest raid in the West Bank village of Qabatiyeh near Jenin, Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2006. Four Palestinians were wounded when the army arrested an Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades militant, Palestinians sources said. The army said two Islamic Jihad militants were arrested during the operation. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)



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To: ZGuy
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101 posted on 08/09/2006 8:25:54 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Shooter is holding magazine you can see the bottom sticking out from his hand.

You don't hold the magainze on an M4 carbeine. Not designed that way. What he's holding is too far forward on the rifle to be a mag anyway. It's probably a custom foregrip. I can see the bystander's blue shirt through where the magainze should be obscuring it.

The rifle is not loaded.
102 posted on 08/09/2006 8:26:50 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: JamesP81
Looks like a custom foregrip. You can mail order them out of a parts catalog.


103 posted on 08/09/2006 8:27:10 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: ZGuy
Ok, I did a bit of poking around and it seems that there are a few things that stand out about this picture.

The weapon first of all. A like new M4, it DOES have a magazine however its hidden behind the sling but who over there has access to a brand new M4 with an Eotec site and front handgrip? Kind of an unusual weapon to see a Jihadi with.

What did it for me and make me think it was a fake was his hand on the pistol grip. Look at the white outline.. almost as if it was cut and pasted without touching up that area.

Also the shadows look off, the depth of the picture looks off as well. I could be wrong but my vote is the shooter was added to the image after the fact.

104 posted on 08/09/2006 8:27:27 AM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: jdm

What is (or do you suppose) the black, turd-like item is; slanted, leaning north by northwest, directly in front of the shooter's forehead, partially obscured by the rifle's 'carrying handle'? (And pls forgive me if I mis-state the name of the rifle part)

This element is lit "all around" and to me is the most incongruous/evidence of clumsy, 1940's "cut-and-paste" item in the pix.


105 posted on 08/09/2006 8:27:30 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You're never more than a half-step away from a good note.)
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To: mass55th

That area would be clear if it were an M4, which has a narrower stock.


106 posted on 08/09/2006 8:28:24 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (What is our exit strategy in the war on poverty?)
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To: Xenalyte

Correct. This is a lame attempt at doctoring. Of course yahoo would believe it.


107 posted on 08/09/2006 8:28:36 AM PDT by rintense
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To: martin_fierro

Green Helmet Strikes Again!


108 posted on 08/09/2006 8:29:18 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: RobRoy
That's my take as well. That said, it is always possible that it is not staged, but it is not relevant.

I've seen many Arab generated photos of street urchin type kids hanging around Jihadi shooters. It's almost unavoidable since with high birthrates they have many kids in the streets of Gaza etc

The Jihad fighters also view the kids as learning the trade. Fetching tea and ammo for them

Thus the photo being minimally staged is the way I see it. The boys were there for the action anyway and the Arab photographer only had to get them to pose a tiny bit

109 posted on 08/09/2006 8:29:31 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: 84rules

"The magazine well is just forward of the trigger. No magazine inserted at all."

No gun expert here, but that's what I thought as well.


110 posted on 08/09/2006 8:29:50 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You're never more than a half-step away from a good note.)
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To: JamesP81; All; Allah

My question: what is huey lewis' younger brother doing there anyway? (tall guy)

C'mon now let's not all go jumping on every picture that comes along now. There ought to be plenty of obvious ones.....


111 posted on 08/09/2006 8:29:55 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
AK AK AK BUDDA! BUDDA! BUDDA!


112 posted on 08/09/2006 8:30:53 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: ZGuy
It does look funny, the way the shooting guy stands out, but sometimes digital cameras create some weird looking effects.

I also look to motive, and can't see any reason why somebody would photoshop this picture. It's easier to just shoot the picture for real. In the middle east, there's no shortage of knuckleheads with guns or idiots to stand around watching them shoot them.

113 posted on 08/09/2006 8:31:43 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: andyandval

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114 posted on 08/09/2006 8:31:47 AM PDT by Global2010 (Show me da paw Ya'll)
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To: CholeraJoe
If the gunman is a Pali, why is he holding an M-16?

Because the US Government gave the Pali's a bunch of them for their "police" force.

115 posted on 08/09/2006 8:32:22 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: dennisw

This could actually be a training session for new jihadis.


116 posted on 08/09/2006 8:32:39 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (What is our exit strategy in the war on poverty?)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
If what I see is correct it looks like there IS a mag.. its just a 20 rounder not a 30 and does not extend down past the sling so you cant see the rest. If you look close you can just make out the grey of the mag.. however I do still think the photo is a fake.


117 posted on 08/09/2006 8:33:09 AM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: jbp1
C'mon now let's not all go jumping on every picture that comes along now. There ought to be plenty of obvious ones.....

This one is obvious. There's no mag seated in the magazine well. Unless Captain Jihadi here was opening the action and inserting one bullet at a time into the chamber, then this gun isn't shooting. The photo is a clear, and poor fake.
118 posted on 08/09/2006 8:33:18 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: SlowBoat407

That is the design on the t-shirt. No mag.

I vote for staged. One round in the chamber for the fauxtographer.

Shooter is closer than the others (maybe 6-8 feet?). That may account for a number of things; light angles, sharpness, etc.


119 posted on 08/09/2006 8:33:19 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is Serendipitous)
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To: ZGuy

Fake photo from the Fake Media!


120 posted on 08/09/2006 8:33:46 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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