Iran Poised to Strike?

Jerusalem Newswire ^ | May 14, 2006 | Stan Goodenough

[richardtavor]

Indicators observed by independent Iran watchers during the past week are raising the question that nuclear-seeking Iran is not merely playing a serious game of brinkmanship, but is actually preparing to strike at Israel, European and US interests.

Headlined "Iran declares war," a May 11 editorial in the New York Sun expressed the belief that a recent letter written by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, which had been widely interpreted as a peaceful gesture, "is in fact a declaration of war."

According to the Sun, a coded message is contained in the closing section of the eight-page letter. While the rest of the message had been translated into English, the salutation in had not. It reads "Vasalam Ala Man Ataba'al hoda" and means "Peace only unto those who follow the true path."

[Capt. Tom]

Ahmadinejad, for all of his rhetoric, knows he can't wield power from the grave - everybody knows Israel has subs with ballistic missiles.

We are dealing with Muslims who aren't worried about dying because they feel they will personally gain an eternal reward from Allah for killing Infidels.

Why do you think those Muslims in Britain were willing to get on airplanes and kill themselves along with the Infidels? They couldn't do much from the grave according to your thinking.

The 19 hijackers who kill 3,000 Infidels on 9-11 were well off financially and most were well educated. Why do you think they killed themselves along with the Infidels.

The Multi millionaire Osama bin Laden has given up his wealth and risked his life and fortune to kill Infidels. Why? Basically is is this simple. What does it profit you to gain the whole world but suffer the loss of your soul??

If you read the Koran and Hadiths you will find out the way to Paradise is by subjugating, converting or killing non-believers in Allah.

Some Muslims are willing to give up their lives for Allah. They won't be deterred by threat of death in a retaliatory atack from the Infidels if they can deliver us a good blow.

Blowing Israel off the planet would be about as good as it gets for a Muslim.

Losing your life bringing down an aircraft with 200 Infidels aboard is bound to please Allah.

These Muslims won't be deterred from seeking eternal salvation, by the prospect of worldly retaliation. - Tom.

[af_vet_rr]

We are dealing with Muslims who aren't worried about dying because they feel they will personally gain an eternal reward from Allah for killing Infidels.

Not the leadership - self preservation among the leadership is a very strong instinct. If you don't have that instinct, you don't live long enough to build up a powerbase to propel you into a leadership position.

The Multi millionaire Osama bin Laden has given up his wealth and risked his life and fortune to kill Infidels.

Funny, I didn't see him at the controls of any airliner. I don't see him leading any bands of fighters against NATO troops in Afghanistan. I see somebody that's on the run, hiding out.

Same with Zarquawi - I didn't exactly see somebody charging headling, wired up, into an American checkpoint - I saw somebody constantly on the move, hiding out, blending in.

I didn't see Saddam taking the controls of a tank and going down into Kuwait to fight the coalition.

Same thing with Ahmadinejad - he's fighting Israel throiugh a proxy.

Some Muslims are willing to give up their lives for Allah.

Those people don't live long enough to become leaders. Sure, somebody like an Arafat might fight against Israel/UK/France when they are young, or a Bin Laden might have fought Russian troops, but they weren't exactly wiring themselves up and charging the enemy, and the fact that they survived the wars they did when they were younger shows they weren't one of the mindless drones they later on used to attack others.

[RightWhale]

Be ready every day. If 22 Aug passes like the last 'big date' promised by Iran, so much the better.

[auto power]

If these terrorists strike the U.S. and others, it will be at their peril and with the blessings of other countries....

[Emmett McCarthy]

Yes, the "blessing" of every muslim-dominated country in the world, including France. The only remaining civilized countries on the planet seem to be the U.S., Israel, Australia and GB - and those are fading fast because we're so damned civilized that we don't know how to put barbaric savages in their place.

[Centurion2000]

Iran is like that guy with 10-12 beers and a full set of beer musckes ..

They're going to talk a lot of trash talk, screw up there courage and get one good shot at the biggest, baddest guy in the room. After which, the biggest and baddest military on the planet is going to erase them.

[Centurion2000]

In today's world there is no justification.

Let the bad guys pop off a nuke and you'll see how fast the Minutemen, Jerichos and Tridents are flying. NBC warfare is where the gloves come off.

They can dismiss chemical attacks (Gulf War), shrug off what might be a bio attack (anthrax), but there is no mistaking a nuclear detonation for anything else.

[Centurion2000]

The enemy has only to plant several devices in areas of the nation in order to reduce out strike back ability.

Not even close. There is NO way Iran would be able to take out the ICBM fields in the north. SAC bases are guarded heavily as well. The ONLY place Iran could stroke at us is at political and soft targets.

[Centurion2000]

Imagine a disaster that would strike the communications systems and shut down all the routers and interlinked networks that our land based weapons require.

That would require them to take out NORAD which is designed to take a near hit from a 25 Megaton blast. The russians had an entire regiment of SS-18 Mod4's specifically for that job. Nothing Iran would make will even come close.

[Mr. Jazzy]

Both your responses seem to imply that you have to blow up the system in order to render the system disabled. Reread what I posted. I'm not talking about bombs, I'm posing the possibility of designed system failures that support the command and control process. Disrupt the controls and the system is reverted to a sort of "safe mode" operation. As a nation, we no longer use the policy of "launch on warning".

Cause a similar situation to occur with regard to our ballistic submarine fleet and the entire weapon system reverts to control exercised by the crew of the sub, alone.
That is an enormous amount of power and that power is independent of any other system, completely stealthy and untraceable with current technology.

[Centurion2000]

Disrupt the controls and the system is reverted to a sort of "safe mode" operation

Well, we may just have to agree to disagree in that there is NO WAY Iran would be capable of detonating that many weapons in the US without detection and massive retaliation. The 'system' of control was designed to survive and continue on in the face of 10,000 inbound nuclear warheads from the Soviet Union. Iran just doesn't have the juice to pull off a disabling strike.

[davidosborne]

Glenn Beck REPORT !!

** Gotta see this **

I am no consipiricy theorist but Glenn Beck has a very intersting report....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9qcxj4q7s

[The Sons of Liberty]

Question: You're the Prime Minister of Israel. It is August 22nd. If your military detects a "scud-type" vehicle launched from Iran headed toward Israel, you then try to shoot it down with your ABMs (the Patriots provided by the good old USA).

If you are successful and shoot it down, do you assume the scud was carrying a nuke, and respond accordingly?

[davidosborne]

What are your thoughts?

[Mr. Jazzy]

"The 'system' of control was designed to survive and continue on in the face of 10,000 inbound nuclear warheads from the Soviet Union. Iran just doesn't have the juice to pull off a disabling strike."


Again, I agree with you. The front door (our ability to protect against a massive strike) is secure. The real weakness in our system is the complexity and a reliance on keeping a nuclear launch from "accidentally" occurring. The Chinese are continually poking and prodding our systems for entry via sub-systems and their vulnerability. Don't tell me that you don't think that the Chinese wouldn't help out the mullahs by giving them guidance in how to hurt the US. You know they would. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Chinese think that they could and would prevail against the US in a nuclear exchange, if the circumstances were right, and us with our pants down around our ankles would clear the way for them to forcibly take back Taiwan. Knock out enough sub systems at the proper time and the WHOLE land and air based systems could be neutralized because they don't have the authority to engage by the proper protocols. Remember the 9-11 situation where everyone was chasing after the brass, trying to find out if the USAF had the authority to shoot down other possible targets? Naturally they should have had the authority! The redundancies in the protective system are there for a purpose and all the enemy has to do is determine which and how to manipulate our own safety systems to their benefit, and our detriment.

[The Sons of Liberty]

This is a tough scenario, but certainly within the realm of possibility.

Given the rhetoric of the Iranian madman, I would have to assume that any missile launched from Iran targeting Israel could possibly be armed with a nuclear weapon. There have been a lot of "intelligence estimates" as to when Iran could build nukes and then incorporate them into a missile system. These estimates are all over the map, and the spy agencies are far from infallible. Also, with the amount of cash that Iran has from their oil revenues, they could possibly have bought a nuke from North Korea or from the Russian mafia, etc.

I would hope for the good of the world, that Israel wouldn't "launch on warning", and wait for confirmation they were actually under nuclear attack. The Israeli leadership would have to be strong and decisive, traits I haven't seen much of from Olmert. I hope they've war-gamed the options and they have a plan.

At the least, it should give Israel the leeway to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, hopefully knocking them out. If Israel was incapable of knocking out the facilities, I would hope that we would lend a hand, at least covertly.

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

Due to years of denial, deception, and defenselessness, I believe we are vulnerable to blackmail.

I see Russia succumbing to this first.....may be a reason we can't garner their support when they are more vulnerable than we are.

[El Gato]

Question: You're the Prime Minister of Israel. It is August 22nd. If your military detects a "scud-type" vehicle launched from Iran headed toward Israel, you then try to shoot it down with your ABMs (the Patriots provided by the good old USA).

If you are successful and shoot it down, do you assume the scud was carrying a nuke, and respond accordingly?

The Israelis also have the Arrow ABM system, which is probably better for the job than the Patriot.

But yes, I'd respond accordingly. That might or might not mean nuking them, but it wouldn't mean giving them a pass either.

[himno hero]

the only thingg that has given them strength and advancement is petro dollars... and we can blame henri ford ....still the oil would remain, and threats of them holding the fuel back would be gone. In the case of a vacant land, someone would want to administer the grounds resources

[himno hero]

dude, with all respect
those others of concern arre not trying to directly and immediately destroy western civilization