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Lost document reveals Columbus as tyrant of the Caribbean
The Guardian ^ | 07 Aug 2006 | Giles Tremlett

Posted on 08/09/2006 5:44:39 AM PDT by Marius3188

Christopher Columbus, the man credited with discovering the Americas, was a greedy and vindictive tyrant who saved some of his most violent punishments for his own followers, according to a document uncovered by Spanish historians.

As governor and viceroy of the Indies, Columbus imposed iron discipline on the first Spanish colony in the Americas, in what is now the Caribbean country of Dominican Republic. Punishments included cutting off people's ears and noses, parading women naked through the streets and selling them into slavery.

"Columbus' government was characterised by a form of tyranny," Consuelo Varela, a Spanish historian who has seen the document, told journalists.

One man caught stealing corn had his nose and ears cut off, was placed in shackles and was then auctioned off as a slave. A woman who dared to suggest that Columbus was of lowly birth was punished by his brother Bartolomé, who had also travelled to the Caribbean. She was stripped naked and paraded around the colony on the back of a mule.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 1492; ageofsail; caribbean; christophercolumbus; columbus; columbusday; consuelovarela; dominicanrepublic; godsgravesglyphs
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To: AlaninSA
FYI Leftist Guardian defaming our Order's namesake PING
61 posted on 08/09/2006 7:52:46 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Marius3188
You should check out some of the penalties Jefferson advocated.
62 posted on 08/09/2006 7:55:10 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: DannyTN

Yeah - Dan Rather.


63 posted on 08/09/2006 7:55:21 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Thommas

LOL, no, It happened in a little farming community in NM.


64 posted on 08/09/2006 7:55:45 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Marius3188
This whole piece reads like the journalistic equivalent of throwing red paint on the guy's statue.
65 posted on 08/09/2006 8:56:50 AM PDT by Gantz (That's the theory, anyway.)
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To: Tribune7

Ouch! They had a different interpretation of cruel and unusual punishment that we do apparently.


66 posted on 08/09/2006 9:07:05 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: muawiyah
The Battle of Tours took place in the Dark Ages. For the most part conditions were so primitive outside of Spain that I doubt "Europeans", as a whole, could come to a resolve about anything other than building more dongeons.

Victorian twaddle. There were no "Dark Ages", and "Spain" (which didn't exist in 720 AD) was no more advanced than any number of other European kingdoms. Charles Martel was grandfather to Charlemagne, who united Western Europe and was crowned Emperor 80 years later. The "dark ages" are nothing more than an invention of Victorian historians romanticizing about the fall of Rome.

67 posted on 08/09/2006 9:08:36 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: Monterrosa-24
The biggest problem the Franks faced in those days were lice and leaky thatch roofs.

Frankenreich, et al, were so decrepit in those times that it really wasn't worthwhile for the Moslems to try to rehabilitate the place.

Consequently they escorted Moslem converts from the area back to Spain where it was sunny, warm and civilized.

68 posted on 08/09/2006 10:06:10 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Marius3188
Wallonia is LUXEMBOURG ~ at least the civilized and settled part is ~ in Belgium it's a big old woods with lots of "off limits" signs to keep you out of unexploded WWI ordinance.

The county of Wallonia is split into two segments.

69 posted on 08/09/2006 10:07:27 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: DannyTN
This is the Guardian. Any more reliable source?

Reuters?

In the document uncovered by Spanish Historians:

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70 posted on 08/09/2006 10:09:25 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Marius3188

It seems old Chris is the only guy in history who gets worse press than Dubya.


71 posted on 08/09/2006 10:09:37 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by fleeing the scene of an accident)
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To: yankeedame

The story has been updated substantially since Durant's time. For one thing folks have begun recognizing and discounting the English propaganda against the Franco/Hispanic hidalgos who were guiding the re-settlement of the Americas.


72 posted on 08/09/2006 10:09:47 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: x_plus_one

Discounting, of course, the first English government installed in the New World (at Jamestown) that ended up with nearly every settler poisoned in an homosexual flavored intrigue of the worst sort.


73 posted on 08/09/2006 10:11:44 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: LexBaird
Hunh? Spain has been a "geographic term" for a gazillion years. Not only that, it even had a unified non-Christian government in the days when it was allied with Carthage. It is believed that Biblical "Tarshish" is, in fact, a kingdom on the SW Coast on the Atlantic.

Spain, to say the least, has been around a very long time ~ Trajan, the Roman Emperor, was a Spaniard.

Now, what was it you were saying about "The Dark Ages"? I'd suggest you go find out how many books were published in Western Europe from 538 AD to about 1066 AD ~ get back to us when you find some eh!

74 posted on 08/09/2006 10:16:37 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: DoctorMichael
Yea, and the Incas and Mayans cut the living hearts out of their brethren.

That was the Aztecs, wasn't it? As far as I know, although the Inca's and Mayas practiced a form of human sacrifice by burying groups of people alive with their deceased royalty, they didn't do the really brutal stuff that you are suggesting. I could be wrong, so if you have any information which can enlighten me, I will be happy to read it.

75 posted on 08/09/2006 10:17:19 AM PDT by webheart (Have a nice day!)
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To: webheart
The Mayas are the guys who used to insert thorns into the king's penis to get royal blood to use in magic ceremonies.

If you'd tried to do that to the Inca he'd had you chopped into little pieces.

76 posted on 08/09/2006 10:20:49 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: webheart

See #20 &#31.


77 posted on 08/09/2006 10:32:25 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: muawiyah

"...leaky thatch roofs..."

Quality thatch roofs do not leak. Today one is likely to find better thatch work in Natal/Zululand than in Central America but even in Europe there are some who keep the almost-lost art alive.

So you think the Mohammedans just turned around at Tours of their own accord...a unique theory...completely faggy and perverted but different.


78 posted on 08/09/2006 10:36:04 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (There is nothing more American that a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
You did know that this is such a terribly important battle that NO ONE knows where it happened! The battlefield remains unmarked.

Part of the problem may be that the number of participants was exaggerated on both sides, with the Franks claiming Rahman had 80,000 cavalry, and that they, themselves only lost 1,500 infantry (out of a mere 15,000 men at arms in the entirity of the Frankish domains).

Although the Moslem army was far from being a small raiding party, it's most likely both armies suffered such heavy losses that no further combat was possible the remainder of the year (since October in Europe does mark the beginning of Fall.)

By the time Spring came, most of the Moslem converts had left France, or been robbed and slaughtered by Pagan soldiers in Martel's command.

Since Rahmen had been killed, disputes over succession, ownership of lands, use of castles, and so forth would probably consume Moslem interests in Spain for most of the next decade.

With no reason to go back to France (besides the place being exceptionally nasty in that period), the Moslems simply did not return.

79 posted on 08/09/2006 10:50:18 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: DoctorMichael
Yes they did. So, that makes anything that Columbus did okay?? In that case, Mao,Stalin,Hitler, were bad but, so was Columbus.
80 posted on 08/09/2006 10:51:15 AM PDT by fish hawk (Terror : in a cave in Afghanistan. Treason: in a cave-in , in the Democratic Party)
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