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Israel responded to an unprovoked attack by Hizbullah, right? Wrong
guardian.co.uk ^ | 8/7/06 | George Monbiot

Posted on 08/07/2006 5:24:28 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32

Whatever we think of Israel's assault on Lebanon, all of us seem to agree about one fact: that it was a response, however disproportionate, to an unprovoked attack by Hizbullah. I repeated this "fact" in my last column, when I wrote that "Hizbullah fired the first shots". This being so, the Israeli government's supporters ask peaceniks like me, what would you have done? It's an important question. But its premise, I have now discovered, is flawed.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aggression; lebanon; monbiot; moonbat
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To: mdittmar

when you win??


21 posted on 08/07/2006 5:44:44 PM PDT by rider237
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
And of course the accumulation of over 10,000 missiles within miles of Israel's soil wasn't a provocation in the least.

Tell you what Guardian, I'm just guessing that if Hezbollah hadn't accumulated those missiles, wasn't intent on sending suicide bombers into Israel, wasn't intent on kidnapping Israeli soldiers and exterminating every Jew within Israel's borders, there might have been a lot less likelihood that Israel would have gone postal.

I don't remember seeing the Guardian ring it's hands over the prospects for violence as Hezbollah escalated the preparation for war in the region.

I'm sure that was just an oversight. Anti-semites!
22 posted on 08/07/2006 5:44:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: dennisw

and he calls himself a "peacenik" like that's a good thing....sheesh


23 posted on 08/07/2006 5:45:17 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1675350/posts
I'm angry

Excerpt:

Yes, I'm angry.

I'm angry at the short memories of many Americans.

I'm angry that as a nation, we have forgotten those men and women - those Americans, our fellow countrymen - who have died over the past two and a half decades at the hands of Hezbullah.

I'm angry that the world sits by and condemns the Israelis for having the guts to go in and take out Hezbullah in Southern Lebanon - something we should have done ourselves two decades ago.

I'm angry because I know that there will come a day in the not-too-distant future, when we will sit here wondering "How could this happen?" as we watch the news reports of some terrorist act on American soil.

It's going to happen again. Virtually no one disputes that. And we will sit here, and wring our hands, and convene a government commission to tell us why we didn't know about it in advance and why we couldn't stop it.

Let me state something clearly and unequivocally.

Hezbullah is not our friend.

Hezbullah is not the friend of the Lebanese people.

Hezbullah's primary goal is the destruction of the state of Israel. They have said so very clearly in one document after another.

They also aren't too fond of Americans, even though they have numerous cells in this country, and raise funds with very little effort made to deter them.

But, you might ask, what has Hezbullah done to us?

* April 18, 1983: Sixty-three people, including the CIA's Middle East director, were killed, and 120 were injured in a 400-pound suicide truck-bomb attack on the U.S. embassy in Beirut, Lebanon. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility but it is widely believed that Hezbullah was responsible.

* October 23rd, 1983: A truck full of explosives ripped through the Marine barracks on, killing 241 U.S. Marines, sailors and soldiers. "It is beyond question that Hezbollah and its agents received massive material and technical support from the Iranian government," ruled U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth.

* March 16, 1984 CIA Station Chief William Buckley kidnapped by Hezbullah; later murdered by his captives.

* Sept. 20, 1984 Bombing of U.S. Embassy annex northeast of Beirut. In Aukar, northeast of Beirut, a truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. Embassy annex killing 24 people, two of whom were U.S. military personnel. According to the U.S. State Department's 1999 report on terrorist organizations, elements of Hezbollah are "known or suspected to have been involved" in the bombing.

* Dec. 3, 1984 Hijacking of Kuwait Airways Flight 221 and murder of two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development.. Kuwait Airways Flight 221, on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan, was hijacked and diverted to Tehran. The hijackers demanded the release of the Kuwait 17. When the demand wasn't met, the hijackers killed two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development. On the sixth day of the drama, Iranian security forces stormed the plane and released the remaining hostages. Over the coming years, numerous other Americans were kidnapped, and several were beheaded by Hezbullah terrorists in Beirut.

* June 13, 1985: Hezbullah terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847, killing Navy Diver Robert Stethem and dumping his body onto the tarmac in Beirut. The world gets its first look at the man who would later become Intelligence Chief for Hezbullah, Imad Mugniyah

* June 25, 1996: Iranian backed terrorists belonging to a Saudi branch of Hezbullah attacked America at Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, exploding a huge truck bomb that devastated Khobar Towers and murdered 19 U.S. airmen as they rested in their dormitory.

I could continue, but you get the picture.


24 posted on 08/07/2006 5:51:40 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

"a peacenik like me" is another way to say "coward".


25 posted on 08/07/2006 5:53:26 PM PDT by alarm rider (Those that vote for RINOS knowingly, have already admitted defeat.)
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To: mdittmar
Here's a snippet:

Russia, France, and the European Union criticized Israel's actions in the escalating conflict, calling them "a disproportionate act of war."

Just like the democrats, they glom on to a particular phrase or talking point, and suddenly everybody is saying the same thing simultaneously.

26 posted on 08/07/2006 5:57:01 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (Apparently, most who protest for peace do so at the expense of hygiene.)
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To: colorado tanker

you forgot to add that it is the French translation


27 posted on 08/07/2006 5:57:28 PM PDT by SCHROLL (Liberalism isn't a political philosophy - it's a mental illness)
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To: Billthedrill

Its absurd even if you dont count the interveneing time frame..

Why is that incident the "cause but not the attacks accross the border that incited Israel to invade lebanon..or how about the 67 war or the 48 war...basically you could go all the way back to the founding of Israel when teh Arab countries attacked them COMPLETELY without provocation.

One incident in 2000? it would be laughable if it wasnt so pathetic.


28 posted on 08/07/2006 5:59:12 PM PDT by Prysson
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To: gondramB

Of course not. I was just putting the b.s. about the Israeli shooting in perspective. The Palestinians may have been unarmed, but they were trying to forceably enter Israel.


29 posted on 08/07/2006 6:03:35 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: Smedley

>>Of course not. I was just putting the b.s. about the Israeli shooting in perspective. The Palestinians may have been unarmed, but they were trying to forceably enter Israel.<<

Gotcha... Thanks for the clarification.


30 posted on 08/07/2006 6:06:32 PM PDT by gondramB (Never appeal to an enemy's better nature, he might not have one. Self interest yields more leverage)
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To: dennisw

And the now controlling left wing of the democrap party insists that talks will bring peace with such demonically possessed murderers. I wonder, would the Jimmah Castraters of the democraps like to sit on the Israeli-Lebanese border for a few years and show us how talking to murderers causes them to change into peaceful neighbors? Of course not ... and these same leftist pigs will be the ones to sit and do nada until only as nuke can stop the slaughtering.


31 posted on 08/07/2006 6:06:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: gondramB
Hey lets take it allah way back, before muuuhamhead (Pigs be inseminating him) heeded the call of satan.

Who invaded whom?

The only good slime is a room temperature slime!

32 posted on 08/07/2006 6:11:23 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: MHGinTN
>>left wing of the democrap party insists that talks will bring peace with such demonically possessed murderers. <<

I am, for some reason, reminded of Lord of the Rings

'We will have peace' said Theoden at last thickly and with an effort. Several of the Riders cried out gladly. Theoden held up his hand. 'Yes, we will have peace', he said, now in a clear voice, 'we will have peace, when you and all your works have perished- and the works of your dark master to which you would deliver us. You are a liar, Saruman, and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me, and I perceive only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just- as it was not, for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine for your own profit as you desired-- even so, what will you say of your torches in Westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of the Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc.

33 posted on 08/07/2006 6:12:29 PM PDT by gondramB (We will have peace, when you and all your works have perished- and the works of your dark master)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

George Monbiot

Is that French for Moonbat?


34 posted on 08/07/2006 6:13:52 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Prysson
If you really want to go back further you can go to 1929 and the massacre of 133 Jews by Arabs for putting a row of chairs to separate the men's prayer area from the women's prayer area at the Wailing Wall.
35 posted on 08/07/2006 6:15:15 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: MHGinTN

demoniacally possessed murderers.....Same as their pervy prophet


36 posted on 08/07/2006 6:15:40 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: colorado tanker

I noticed that alternative spelling, too. It's the French variant.


37 posted on 08/07/2006 6:19:54 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Well if we are going back six year for a supposed provocation then Isarel can retaliate and attack Iran as an appropriate response to the Persian empire for throwing the Jews out centuries ago.

Glad this Liberal thought of this circuitous excuse.


38 posted on 08/07/2006 6:35:55 PM PDT by rod1
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Some other panty waste, moonbat claimed the other day that the Hizbos only kidnapped the Israeli soldiers in response to Israel kidnapping some Hizbo freak.

Guess they forgot about the rockets launched at Israeli civilians everyday.


39 posted on 08/07/2006 6:38:05 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

TOTAL BS!


40 posted on 08/07/2006 6:42:16 PM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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