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"No Pet Left Behind" Bill Passes Senate
Reuters (via. Newsmax.com) ^ | Aug. 5, 2006 | unknown

Posted on 08/06/2006 11:59:15 AM PDT by Frank T

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To: trumandogz
One suggestion of mine is that a tote and duct tape be carried on rescue missions. The owner has 1 minute to duct tape the animal's mouth and stuff it in the bag. He must also hold the bag in his lap to not take up room, in the copter.
61 posted on 08/06/2006 2:44:40 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
One suggestion of mine is that a tote and duct tape be carried on rescue missions. The owner has 1 minute to duct tape the animal's mouth and stuff it in the bag.

Really bad idea. Many owners will not only tape the mouth, but the nose as well, effectively killing the animal.

Your idea won't work.

Why tape the mouth if you have a tote?

62 posted on 08/06/2006 2:46:34 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: MissEdie; All; Lurker

"Before hurricane season, he makes sure we're well stocked with food, water, and ammo."

And don't forget dry socks! ;)

Living in both Tornado Country and Blizzard Country, I know I, too, would stick it out at home if I could. I have more stuff stashed for emergencies than makes sense to most people, but having gone through ice storms, tornadoes, power outages (in the dead of winter) and all host of other nature-made inconveniences, it is best to be prepared. I also know better than to live below sea-level, but that's a whole 'nother rant.

That said, I DO NOT want my fellow Taxpayers at ANY level (Village, Town, City, County, State & National) footing the bill for my personal choice to stay or go, just as I don't want to pay for the choices that others make in a crisis situation, whether Nature made or Self-induced. And I certainly don't want Congress legislating yet another "feel-good, do nothing LAW" that dips into our pocketbooks! Grrr! NOLA is the clearest, most recent example proving that Government Cannot Save Us. WE save us. Individuals. NOT Government.

What has happened to America? Why are we such a country of wimps and whiners now, versus a short generation ago when we were sod-bustin', shootin' buffalo, felling trees to make way for crops on a few acres with an axe and a mule, growing our own food, raising our own livestock while those that had the opposite and just as important talents and desires stayed behind, designed and built our Big Cities?

Of course, the OBVIOUS answer is that Creeping Socialism has turned us all into wimps but again, that's another rant, LOL!

I was born in the wrong century. I was born to be "Cougar Annie" or "Molly Pitcher" or that woman who made all the money in the world on Wall Street when women weren't allowed (Her name escapes me; Sorry!) Which makes no sense to those today that went through Publik Skrewel. And again, that's another rant for another day, LOL! ;)

See how it's just one big Circle of Cr@p when Government steps in to sidetrack us on our quest for The Good Life? They do it every d@mn day.

And we LET them...


63 posted on 08/06/2006 2:49:39 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: sinkspur

My vet does this. (taping) I doubt people would cover their dogs nose. The tote is in case he gets his head out and tries to bite someone or doesn't really care too much about the idea of leaving a safe roof and struggles.


64 posted on 08/06/2006 2:53:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Sarajevo; Lurker

Um...that's a cat, LOL! (He looks like my old cat Tim, though. I love those Gray & White American Shorthairs. Nice cats, good temperments.)

However, I'm afraid of both monkeys and clowns. Especialy men that dress up like clowns. And monkeys that people dress up like clowns. There. I've admitted it to the world, LOL! :)


65 posted on 08/06/2006 2:55:41 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Frank T


http://www.naiaonline.org/body/articles/archives/curric.htm

Excerpt:

HSUS

The Humane Society of the US with its 1.5 million members calls itself the nation’s largest animal protection organization. Few people know that the HSUS animal protection philosophy is not animal welfare but an animal rights philosophy that says it is morally wrong for humans to use or kill animals and that they have been guided by that philosophy since 1980.2

Furthermore, HSUS has set as its goal the abolition of animals in laboratory research and education.3,4,5 In recent years, HSUS elected to call themselves ‘animal protectionists’ to disassociate their group from the bad press that the Animal Liberation Front and the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals have brought to the animal rights movement. HSUS shares the same animal rights philosophy and goal of abolishing the use of animals in laboratory research as militant animal rights groups, but they differ in tactics and timetable for reaching that goal. Their tactic is to slowly but progressively wean society away from using animals.

In order to avoid the extremist label HSUS has deliberately sought to project a ‘moderate’ image and hide the animal rights message under animal protectionism and the guise of humane and environmental education. Many of the HSUS projects are laudable and could be described as animal welfare. They work very hard to keep that image. Corporate donations and the respect of the education community are dependant on that image. However, their hidden agenda is to get people to give animals the same respect they give humans. What better method to accomplish a change in societal values than by incorporating it into a nationwide elementary school curriculum on humane and environmental education?
NAHEE

Is HSUS a Trojan Horse being covertly carried into the citadel of elementary education?6

HSUS has endeavored to establish itself as The Authority in humane and environmental education. Indeed, the organization has won several awards for KIND News; has had the Adopt-a-Teacher program placed in the 1992 Environmental Success Index; and had a field representatives appointed to the prestigious National Environmental Education Advisory Council of the Environmental Protection Agency.

To help establish this reputation, HSUS created the National Association for Humane and Environmental Education, a separate youth education division. NAHEE had a 1992 budget of $940,000 and 14 full-time staff , an increase of 31 percent over the 1991 budget. The goals for NAHEE were articulated in the 1992 HSUS annual report: “ ... NAHEE strives to ensure that humane attitudes become a viable part of mainstream education and environmental perspectives. ... NAHEE continues to monitor and evaluate new children’s books, children’s magazines, and newspapers as well as all major elementary and secondary teaching magazines and newspapers to encourage the promotion of humane values in publications other than our own.”7

Indeed, NAHEE has been successful in influencing other publications as evidenced by a series of three grossly misleading articles biased against using animals in medical research which appeared in the nine-million circulation Weekly Reader and its companion for middle schools Current Science.6 NAHEE’s influence even extends beyond the USA as they have sent their educational materials to 13 foreign countries.

It is clear that HSUS has been acknowledged as The Authority and is being warmly welcomed through the educational gates of Troy by unsuspecting teachers and administrators who thought they weregetting ‘humane and environmental education’ but ended up with those elements mixed with a subtle animal rights message that says it is wrong for humans to kill, capture, or use animals for any reason. It is a message that elevates respect for animals to the same plane as respect for humans. This is a brilliant tactic as respect and consideration for animals is a hallmark of animal welfare. HSUS has reduced the difference between animal rights and animal welfare to the degree of respect and consideration given animals, thus blurring the difference between the two.


66 posted on 08/06/2006 3:00:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Frank T

Ladies and gentlebeings, this is your Republican-controlled Senate at work. And they want to get re-elected this year.


67 posted on 08/06/2006 3:00:32 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Um...that's a cat

Yeah....but his name is Howler-Monkey, doesn't that count???? BTW- I would never leave him or the other 7 behind.

However, I'm afraid of both monkeys and clowns. Especially men that dress up like clowns. And monkeys that people dress up like clowns.

D'Oh! I'm runnin' fer cover!

68 posted on 08/06/2006 3:12:37 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Life is a sexually transmitted disease. -R. D. Laing)
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To: sinkspur
Hows about people just evacuate when they're told to and that local leaders use the assets they have at hand (school buses spring to mind) to protect their citizens as they're sworn to do.

That way we won't need a committee of 535 morons most of whom the majority of us wouldn't let borrow our cars much less drive our kids to school to fritter away valuable time and taxpayer dollars on this nonsensical foolishness.

I happen to be an emergency worker and believe me we've got our hands full just planning on how to evacuate several tens of thousands of human beings from our jurisdiction without further burdening the system with a Federal requirement we handle their pets.

We already have a plan in place for that. It's called get your cats, dogs, goats, pygmy ponies, potbellied pigs, snakes, rats, gerbils, mice, hamsters, spiders, snakes, or whatever else you've decided to have as a pet together and get your backsides out of town when your told to.

If you want to stay, well we aren't going to force you at the point of a gun to go but we sure as hell aren't going to kill firemen, cops, medics, and trained volunteers trying to get you and your pet out when you should have left long ago.

Now nobody loves pets more than I do. We have several. But we've planned ahead. We have Boogy Kits for all our animals in the closet packed up and ready to go. We've got food, pet beds, leashes, collars, water, their meds, and crates for each of them.

It also occurs to me that none of these Senatorial dim bulbs actually spoke to the Red Cross or they would have known that the Red Cross forbids anything but bona fide service animals in their shelters.

And just for the record FEMA has already thought of this. They offer a class for it which can be found by going to Animals In Disaster, Awaredness and Preparedness. It's already available to anyone who wants to take it courtesy of the long suffering American taxpayer.

Sorry to pop off in your general direction after our pleasant conversation the other evening. But please realize my county OEM is composed of a total of 8 full time workers and 20 volunteers who are expected to plan for and serve nearly a million residents. Tossing this into our laps is beyond silly.

How's the new pup doing?

L

69 posted on 08/06/2006 3:16:18 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is NOT a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a one.)
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To: Lurker

If shelters had a place for crated or secured pets though, wouldn't it make your job easier and safer? More people would probably go to shelters. I have all the stuff you mentioned but if I didn't have a car and couldn't get on a bus, what would I do with my dog?


70 posted on 08/06/2006 3:22:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Frank T
I would not have left my dogs behind to die even if I had had to walk out with them but this looks like feel good legislation to me. It is going to cause even more problems in shelters when dogs bite kids, cats escape, and there is poop everywhere.
71 posted on 08/06/2006 3:29:30 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: CindyDawg
If shelters had a place for crated or secured pets

If they did, yes it would. But they don't. We work rather closely with the Red Cross. They sit in on our planning meetings.

Most people have a mistaken idea about what a Red Cross shelter is. It's not a permanent building the Red Cross runs and just leaves empty until they're needed. They maintain mutual aid compacts with churches, school districts, larger private venues, and things like that.

Contracts are signed long, often years, in advance. The owners of these building both public and private expect that their building will be temporarily used as shelters for people and then returned to them in the same condition they were when the Red Cross came in.

99% have no facilities for pets. There are no spaces where temporary kennels can be set up. There are also liability issues to consider. What if someone is injured by someone elses dog? Who is responsible for that? Who's going to provide the food for these animals? Is the Red Cross to be expected to feed pets as well as people now?

I don't mean to sound like I don't care, because I do. But for the life of me I can't figure out what these people are thinking.

I'm also going to hazard a guess, because you said 'what if I didn't' and assume that you do have a car. I don't wish to seem abrupt but if you do have prepared supplies and a vehicle you don't have to worry about the 'what ifs'.

If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion why don't you talk to a some of your neighbors who might not be as fortunate as you are and see if they would need help evacuating themselves and their pets in a disaster.

You could also check into any volunteer opportunities at your local Office of Emergency Management and see if they have a need for someone who cares about both people and their pets. Perhaps you could help in planning or as a volunteer emergency worker.

If more folks did that we wouldn't need a stupid Congressional mandate which isn't going to do anything but strain an already overburdened emergency services network.

Check out the link I provided above for a couple of informative and easy to take web based classes on how to prepare for and deal with animals in a disaster. Then maybe you could start to do something in your town or county.

If you decide to I think you'll find it to be a very rewarding experience. You might also want to look into volunteering at your local county animal shelter. They're almost always crying for help.

Regards,

L

72 posted on 08/06/2006 3:44:01 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is NOT a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a one.)
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To: mewzilla

Obviously you have not dealt with major evacuations. Houston had one and everyone hit the highways just like the politician told them too. After the politicians seen the mess they said we did not mean what we said. Major traffic jam and no gasoline. Matter of fact more people in Texas were killed in evacuations than the storm itself. Everyone I spoke too will stay put in the next storm.


73 posted on 08/06/2006 4:04:07 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: davisfh
Classic tabby, I believe.

The "mutt" if the feline world -- probably why she is so long-lived.

We are getting the new tests this week. Please pray for her. I just want a little more time. Just a little more.

74 posted on 08/06/2006 4:11:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Creation "science" has a final answer--adherence to the scriptures. All other data are discarded.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"If it involves Fluffy or Fido, watch out you big old Meanie"

I was hoping to get flamed! I wonder how many of these yahoo's are anti-abortion and can't see that this law really is Roe vs Wade for any live human being or could be.


75 posted on 08/06/2006 4:27:14 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
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To: jwh_Denver

And, I must add: "Love Your Tagline." :)

I know! This is SUCH a critical year, and we have every splintered faction of the GOP whining over this or that when we need to be pulling up the drawbridge and dumping boiling oil on the 'Rats!

What we need are 'Big Picture Thinkers.' Those that can actually see, feel, BE the next Chess Move on the board.

Hmmmm..."The Big Picture Party?" Mama like! ;)


76 posted on 08/06/2006 4:52:19 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: girlangler

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1678778/posts?page=66#66


77 posted on 08/06/2006 5:26:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sometimes seeing a part of the Big Picture just gets to be too much at times. Of course I always recover just to get more infuriated at what's going on. I seriously doubt at this point we can change the direction this country's going in.

I'm one of those people that is thoroughly disappointed with the GOP so I won't go into any diatribes because I know you've heard them all. I do at least get to vote for Tom Tancredo.

Thanks on the tagline. Lately it seems, excepting you, I get some real no brain responses to my posts in which I add, "including idiots" at the end.

I've seen your chocolate tagline many times. Good one.


78 posted on 08/06/2006 5:48:09 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
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To: Frank T

this is absolutely insane


79 posted on 08/06/2006 6:04:34 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: freedumb2003

How's Musica doing now? Recall that she was not well a couple of weeks ago ...


80 posted on 08/06/2006 6:17:21 PM PDT by SFConservative
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