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Are You 'Right' To Own A Gun?
DC Examiner ^ | 8/3/06 | Marc Danzinger

Posted on 08/03/2006 7:03:58 AM PDT by steve-b

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To: RKV
Well whatever he is, I think this article speaks sensibly about an important topic. Rights and responsibilities DO go together, and all of us know at least one person who shouldn't own a gun even if they are allowed to.

Personally I think he's talking sense... maybe it's the broken clock thing.

Also... for those of you who are firearms owners, if I could shove a little gunporn into this thread, my wife's gun (a similar one pictured below) has proven a ton of fun and outrageously inexpensive both to buy and to shoot. There are versions legal in 50 states and I couldn't recommend them any more highly.


For your viewing pleasure, the Romanian WASR10.


21 posted on 08/03/2006 7:26:43 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: steve-b
Are You 'Right' To Own A Gun?

Well, if it's wrong then, I donn't want to be right...8>)

Armed libs no surprise here. I shoot with a few of my Rat neighbors a few times a year

22 posted on 08/03/2006 7:28:10 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (GBU-10 and GBU-38...two tickets to paradise)
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To: rhombus

"The events of April 19 began at approximately 5:55 a.m., when the HRT Commander deployed two CEVs, or Combat Engineering Vehicles (M-60 tanks with booms attached) to the compound. The action ended a few minutes after 12:00 p.m., when the compound erupted in flames."



This happened when I was, say 15, but I remember it so well - I think I have emotion scars. The teachers rolled in the TV on a cart, disrupting my Geometry class...

I was upset at that but then I was majorly disturbed by what I saw on TV.

23 posted on 08/03/2006 7:29:46 AM PDT by chris_ab
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To: steve-b
owning a gun doesn't by itself make you a whole lot safer; famed firearms instructor Jeff Cooper said that "owning a gun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a piano makes you a musician."

Great comment.

24 posted on 08/03/2006 7:29:49 AM PDT by GOPJ (Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
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To: steve-b

A very good article. I have wanted to get a gun for years. But being disorganized, I have not because I did not want someone to get hurt - grandkids. I am still thinking about it though.


25 posted on 08/03/2006 7:33:15 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: steve-b
bump for later
26 posted on 08/03/2006 7:34:20 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Human being are predators, mercy is a countersurvival strategy.)
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To: steve-b
The issue of gun ownership really comes down to personal responsibility.

If they don't value personal responsibility as an important foundation of society, or you don't believe that society is capable of exercising it, then private gun ownership is going to be something they consider a threat to that society.

However, a free and democratic society cannot succeed without a strong foundation of personal responsibility by it's citizens.

27 posted on 08/03/2006 7:36:06 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: chris_ab

I was in Hawaii, TDY off a ship because of a broken foot. I saw this on the QD televsion and was totally shocked. I was even more shocked and dismay later when nobody was fired and tried for this criminal act.


28 posted on 08/03/2006 7:38:51 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: RKV

Yes, but, the Second Amendment itself, clearly addresses the issues of freedom and the protection of same by the RIGHT to bear arms by the citizenry AND to form a militia, if need be...

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

What is abundantly clear, and clear to the oppressive socialist left, is that the people HAVE THE RIGHT to bear arms for protection of their freedoms. That is my point and why the Sec. Amendment is ALWAYS under attack BY THE LEFT.



29 posted on 08/03/2006 7:40:19 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: steve-b

I've taken a number of firearms classes, including range safety, tactical training, ccw class, and several weapon specific classes for shotgun, pistol, and revolver.

I value what I've learned in the classroom more than what I learned on the range. The tactical class was taught by local Sheriff's deputies, they stressed mindset, the will to fight, the will to keep fighting, situational awareness, etc.

The CCW class spent an inordinate amount of time going over the legalities of when to shoot, who to shoot, and the consequences.

Valuable lessons all.


30 posted on 08/03/2006 7:40:38 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: driftdiver
I think he's laid in bed at night imagining all the people his terrible vicious firarm has killed since he was so irresponsible as to let someone else steal it.

you're probably right, i'd be laying in bed at night agonizing over the image of all the joy and fun someone else would be having with my firearm. :)
31 posted on 08/03/2006 7:41:15 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: harrowup
How about it TP? Should guys our age turn the keys over to the youngsters?

To answer that question, I submit this:

A monument in Arlington, Massachusetts reads:

Near this spot, Samuel Whittemore, then 80 years old, killed three British soldiers, April 19, 1775. He was shot, bayoneted, beaten and left for dead, but recovered and lived to be 98 years of age.

The story is that British soldiers returning from the Battles of Lexington and Concord were spotted by Samuel Whittemore(1694-1786?) in Menotomy (modern Arlington). He loaded his musket, and took aim at the approaching soldiers from behind a nearby stone wall. He fired, killing one of the British troops. He then drew his dueling pistols and killed another soldier with his pistols. Having no time left to reload before the soldiers advanced to him, he drew a sword and advanced toward the British, attacking them with his sword. He was shot, bayoneted, and beaten by the infuriated troop of British soldiers.

Villagers came to remove his body after the British left. They were amazed to find him still alive. They removed him from the field, and he lived to recover from his wounds. He lived until he was 91 years of age, and was regarded by the locals as a hero of the revolution.


32 posted on 08/03/2006 7:42:55 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: steve-b

Yeah. And join the NRA so that we keep this right.


33 posted on 08/03/2006 7:46:42 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness and death.)
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To: steve-b
Are You 'Right' To Own A Gun?

Yes. End of story. If someone needs an explanation, just have them read the 2nd Amendment. That's really all that's necessary.

34 posted on 08/03/2006 7:46:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: RKV
"The idea that the state has to certify you are OK to own a gun is just wrong."

Using your car analogy, the state does certify you to drive, requires cars to have serial numbers, requires cars to be registered, etc.

"As is the idea that the state should limit you to certain types of guns."

The citizens of the state, acting through their elected representatives, may place reasonable restrictions on any of our rights -- we do it for speech in the first amendment, for example.

35 posted on 08/03/2006 7:47:54 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: steve-b
While I don't disagree with any of his sensible points on gun responsibility, his tone suggested that he is very comfortable with the idea of him owning a gun, but is queasy on others having the same rights.

Not much different than Rosie O'Donnell believing solely in the second amendment rights of her bodyguards.

36 posted on 08/03/2006 7:52:35 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: robertpaulsen

"Using your car analogy, the state does certify you to drive, requires cars to have serial numbers, requires cars to be registered, etc."

This analogy has been debunked many many times. There is no parallel between firearms and cars. Firearm ownership is protected constitutionally protected. Car ownership is not.


37 posted on 08/03/2006 7:55:25 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Was this supposed to be directed at post #13?


38 posted on 08/03/2006 8:01:15 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: EagleUSA

MEGA DITTOS TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 08/03/2006 8:03:38 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: steve-b

A good article full of good common sense. Thankfully, most legal gun owners and those that concealed carry have this level of responsibility.

I only wish people took their right to vote as responsibly and used forethought and understanding of the issues before going to vote.


40 posted on 08/03/2006 8:04:11 AM PDT by RicocheT
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