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8/2 Middle East Live Thread
8/1 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/2/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/01/2006 9:58:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

IDF: 400 Hezbollah down, 1200 to go

Report: 'Unprecedented' IAF presence over Baalbeck IDF commandos conducting raid deep in Lebanon; 3 soldiers killed in south Lebanon village

Israel sends up to 10,000 troops into southern Lebanon

Israeli Commandos Raid Hezbollah Hideout in Baalbek Hospital


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; daralislam; dhimmis; dhimmitude; hezbollah; humanshieldsrus; iran; islam; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; muslimcaliphate; ontolitani
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To: BurbankKarl


08:04 Lebanese police: Six people captured in IDF raid, 11 civilians dead (Israel Radio)
07:57 11 IDF soldiers lightly wounded in Lebanon battles hospitalized in Nahariya (Haaretz)
07:50 IDF warns residents of 10 towns within 20km of Lebanon border to evacuate (Haaretz)
07:42 Lebanese sources confirms at least 3 Hezbollah militants captured by IDF (Haaretz)
07:00 7 Hezbollah militants killed in battles in Ayta a-Shab and north of Manara (Haaretz)


41 posted on 08/01/2006 10:19:38 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: bruinbirdman
"I find the reporting from so varied sources quite fascinating. Or should that be varied reporting from fascinating sources? "

For instance: CNN reports that IDF is back in Baalbeck, northern Lebanon. The poster, who evidently hasn't learned how to copy and paste, types southern Lebanon. By the time all the replies didn't come up with an answer (all one had to do was look at the first paragraph of the cited URL), Baalbeck was in northern Israel, southern Lebanon or northern Lebanon.

It was also interesting that the story had already talked to a witness at the hospital that was under siege (cell phone? it was a commando raid). Israel either captured some Hessian mucky mucks and fled unharmed, or the building was surrounded by the enemy and so were the commandos.

In any event, the whole mess of reporting from both sides would be amusing for the critical analyst if the situation weren't so sad.

Several threads move so fast, a reply shows up 200 spots down the page (thats the time it takes to preview, correct one misspelling and click post). By that time you have to ping yourself to find your post and any replies. I love it.

Haven't had so much fun since "Deep in the Hurntgen Forrest" threads back in '99.

yitbos

42 posted on 08/01/2006 10:20:34 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: sageb1

I like this quote from the article you posted:

"The U.N. wants a "sustainable" cease-fire? How about enforcing U.N. Resolution 1559, which called for the disarmament of Hezbollah? Send in troops to do that, not to keep Israel from defending itself. Send in troops that can shoot and be shot at if necessary, not blue helmets from Fiji.

If 1559 had been enforced, there would have been no Hezbollah incursion, no Israeli retaliation and no civilian deaths in Qana."


43 posted on 08/01/2006 10:22:13 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: pinz-n-needlez; AggieMom x 3

Israeli sniper w/night vision scope....

Band of Brothers

Had a tough time on pictures tonight...here are the other two...

44 posted on 08/01/2006 10:23:28 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: tcrlaf
The Islamic Resistance issued the following statement:

The Zionist enemy tried hard to promote false information on the number of martyrs of the Islamic Resistance in the face of the "Israeli" aggression against Lebanon.

The latest of these allegations were made by the so-called Justice Minister of "Israel", Haim Ramon, who spoke of the loss of 300 combatants, while their Minister of Tourism claimed 400 were killed.

This contradiction in the "Israeli" allegations shows they are continuing with their false lies, as they have since the onset of the aggression, it also reveals a level of confusion among their leaders and failure on their behalf.

The Islamic Resistance denies these false allegations which come in the context of attempting to raise the morale of the enemy society and their army, to justify the successive failures of the elite troops, trapped in the firepower of the combatants of the resistance.

The resistance also reiterates its assertion that it announces the martyrs, whose families are proud of them, just as their homeland is, while the enemy conceals its dead and wounded for fear of the influences it has on the morale of their domestic audience.

Source:Special, August 1, 2005 (at 18:55). Date: 01/08/2006 Time 21:59

45 posted on 08/01/2006 10:23:45 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Allegra

The joys of time zones. Hubby is in Pacific time and expects me to wait up for him to call me each night. I don't dare go to sleep before then, or it might be like last night, and I snoozed a little, he called, and I didn't get back to sleep until after 2...spent the night looking to buy a cheap laptop.


46 posted on 08/01/2006 10:23:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Allegra

That is good news..G'morning.


47 posted on 08/01/2006 10:24:04 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: tcrlaf

Thanks!


48 posted on 08/01/2006 10:24:16 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: tcrlaf

This HEZ propoganda page is COVERED with pictures of dead babies, and wild claims of HUNDREDS of Dead Israeli soldiers...


49 posted on 08/01/2006 10:24:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: conservativepoet


A nephew of Sen. Max Baucus serving in the Marines was killed in Iraq during the weekend, the senator's office said Tuesday.

Cpl. Phillip E. Baucus, 28, died Saturday during combat operations in Anbar province, the Department of Defense said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676196/posts


50 posted on 08/01/2006 10:24:46 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: tcrlaf

Where are the pictures of 15000 troops marching to battle?


51 posted on 08/01/2006 10:25:21 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

IDF commandos complete Baalbek raid, reportedly capture six Hezbollah militants
By Amos Harel and Yoav Stern, Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and Agencies

Israel Defense Forces commandos completed a raid of the Hezbollah stronghold of Baalbek in east Lebanon at daybreak Wednesday, in what Lebanese security sources described as a major operation against suspected Hezbollah positions.

According to Israel Radio Lebanese police said the IDF captured six junior Hezbollah militants and killed several others before completing the operation and safely returning to Israel.

Lebanese security sources identified three of the men as Hussein Nasrallah, Hussein al-Burji and Ahmed al-Ghotah and described them as low ranking members of the group. The captured Hussein Nasrallah has the same name as a Hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrallah, but is not known to be related to him in any way.

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The sources said that the raid aimed to capture senior Hezbollah man Mohammed Yazbek, who was reportedly being treated at the Dar al-Hikma hospital in the town.

The IDF confirmed that its troops returned from the operation to their base in Israel unharmed and that several militants were captured by the raiding forces and taken back to Israel.

Lebanese police reported at least eleven civilians killed in the air strike on a village near Baalbek, Israel Radio reported.

They said Israel Air Force planes bombarded the village of Jammaliyeh during clashes nearby in Baalbek.

They said five members of the same family were found dead in one house and two more were found dead in another collapsed house.

Six other villagers were killed and two wounded.

One civilian was also killed by an air strike in Hermel to the north.

The forces landed by helicopter
Lebanese security sources said the IDF commandos landed by helicopter, launching several strikes near Baalbek, which is located in eastern Lebanon's Bekaa Valley. (Click here for map)

One Lebanese officer said the Israel Air Force presence in the air above the ancient city was "unprecedented."

The operation began with at least five rapid air strikes on Baalbek and its surroundings at 10:20 P.M. - three hours before the end of Israel's self-imposed two-day pause in air attacks. Helicopters fired rockets and heavy machinegun fire at targets near a hospital in Baalbek and other sites in the city, witnesses said.

Witnesses in Baalbek said they saw dozens of IAF helicopters hovering over the city. They said the hospital in Baalbek, filled with patients and wounded people, was bombed by IAF helicopters late Tuesday. Plumes of burning smoke billowed from the hospital after it was directly hit, they said.

Flares held aloft by parachutes lighted the night sky to a daytime brilliance, a Lebanese security official said.

Four hours into the operation the fighting continued, witnesses said. IAF warplanes staged more than 10 bombing runs at 2.20 A.M. (2320 GMT) Wednesday around the hospital as well as on hills in east and north Baalbek.

Shortly after the IAF raids began, electricity was cut off, plunging Baalbek and other neighboring villages in total darkness.

IAF helicopters also attacked a target 15 kilometers west of Baalbek, starting a huge fire, witnesses said. It was not immediately known if the target was controlled by Hezbollah or the Lebanese army.

Hezbollah claimed that the IDF commandos were trapped inside the hospital and were engaged in fierce fighting with guerilla fighters who surrounded the facility. There was no independent confirmation.

"A group of Israeli commandos was brought to the hospital by a helicopter. They entered the hospital and are trapped inside as our fighters opened fire on them and fierce fighting is still raging," Hezbollah spokesman Hussein Rahal told AP.

Rahal said IAF jets were attacking the surrounding guerillas with rockets.

"The units have been surrounded by Hezbollah fighters and heavy fire is covering the area," said a Hezbollah source.

"They [the Israelis] are firing everywhere and trying to get out of the area," the source said.

Rahal said Hezbollah guerrillas were using automatic rifles and rocket-propelled grenades. He dismissed as "untrue" reports that the commandos managed to snatch some patients from the hospital and spirit them away in helicopters.

IAF helicopters also opened machine-gun fire on Hezbollah fighters entrenched outside the hospital, witnesses said.

IAF fighter jets returned at 3:35 A.M. Wednesday and fired eight missiles on residential neighborhoods in eastern and northern Baalbek where Hezbollah's Shiite supporters live, witnesses said. There was no immediate word on casualties.

However, fierce fighting around the hospital stopped shortly before 4 A.M. as precarious calm prevailed in Baalbek, residents said.

Speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation, the residents said the Dar al-Hikma hospital is financed by an Iranian charity, the Imam Khomeini Charitable Society, which is close to Hezbollah. The hospital is also run by people close to Hezbollah, the residents said. Repeated telephone calls to the Dar al-Hikma hospital went unanswered.

Baalbek is about 100 kilometers north of the Litani River, which Israel had set as a northern boundary for an expanded ground operation that was announced in the early hours of Tuesday.

An ancient city with spectacular Roman ruins, Baalbek was a former Syrian army headquarters and included the barracks of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards when they trained Hezbollah guerrillas there in the 1980s.

The last time IDF forces were know to have penetrated so far into Lebanon was in 1994, when they abducted Lebanese guerrilla leader Mustafa Dirani, hoping to use him to get information about missing Israeli airman Ron Arad. Dirani was released in a prisoner exchange 10 years later.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/745276.html


52 posted on 08/01/2006 10:26:28 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sageb1
" it also reveals a level of confusion among their leaders and failure on their behalf. "

Command and control not doing well coming out of holes in the ground.

yitbos

53 posted on 08/01/2006 10:27:09 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: Allegra

Shift change on FR. Pinged you on the last thread. Larry Kudlow pissed us off with his doom and gloom assessment of the war in Iraq. Bought in to the DBM/CNN/etc. hand wringing crap they put out.

(now out of here for sure)


54 posted on 08/01/2006 10:29:22 PM PDT by CedarDave (French report: Landis fails drug test. But, outside of France, men naturally produce testosterone)
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To: tcrlaf

This gives me a sense that Hezb. is beginning to go on the defensive...as if they are not as confident as they were, perhaps.


55 posted on 08/01/2006 10:30:15 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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57 posted on 08/01/2006 10:31:47 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"Witnesses in Baalbek said they saw dozens of IAF helicopters hovering over the city."

Eh, eh. This is the kind of reporting I can have confidence in. First it is Israeli. Second, I believe the "witnesses" were the commandos themselves reporting on "mission accomplished".

yitbos

58 posted on 08/01/2006 10:32:51 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

I really don't know.


59 posted on 08/01/2006 10:33:14 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Ebay.


60 posted on 08/01/2006 10:33:20 PM PDT by fatima (By the time we reached Virginia City I was considered a remarkable good shot Calamity Jane)
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