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8/2 Middle East Live Thread
8/1 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/2/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 08/01/2006 9:58:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

IDF: 400 Hezbollah down, 1200 to go

Report: 'Unprecedented' IAF presence over Baalbeck IDF commandos conducting raid deep in Lebanon; 3 soldiers killed in south Lebanon village

Israel sends up to 10,000 troops into southern Lebanon

Israeli Commandos Raid Hezbollah Hideout in Baalbek Hospital


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; daralislam; dhimmis; dhimmitude; hezbollah; humanshieldsrus; iran; islam; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; muslimcaliphate; ontolitani
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To: Lizarde

Wanted to be 1000!!!!!


1,001 posted on 08/02/2006 4:34:30 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (I don't believe in athiests. They just don't exist...)
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To: sageb1

LOL, good grief! Even the ones who still live in the ME?


1,002 posted on 08/02/2006 4:34:37 PM PDT by McGavin999 (God watch over the young lions of Israel!)
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To: GulfBreeze

darn...


1,003 posted on 08/02/2006 4:34:55 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (I don't believe in athiests. They just don't exist...)
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To: AliVeritas

I'd love to hear it. :-)

I'm fascinated these days with the *history* of religions. That tells a separate story than the *theology* of religions.

I know the info is still biased, depending on the point of view of the tellers, but reading several accounts leads to a synthesis of information, rather than more polarized arguments.

Pinz


1,004 posted on 08/02/2006 4:38:12 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: olde north church

Thank you for that overview. It's exactly the kind of description that I find so intriguing. :-)

Pinz


1,006 posted on 08/02/2006 4:39:16 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: sageb1

I hadn't heard that, but there are a LOT of other religions that aren't too far away from that. However, he is very tolerant of other religions and was furious when the Iraqi Christians were attacked. He issued a fatwah condemning it. He's not much of one for issuing fatwahs since his school of thought is that Imams should merely guide and not command. He is also constantly insisting that the Sunni,Shiia, Christian and Kurds MUST get along together and put their differences behind them.


1,007 posted on 08/02/2006 4:39:30 PM PDT by McGavin999 (God watch over the young lions of Israel!)
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To: GulfBreeze
Look at the good side. 1001 is the paladrone of numbers.
1,008 posted on 08/02/2006 4:39:42 PM PDT by casino66 (A beater of dead horses.)
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To: casino66

pala whatever not spelled right but spell check let it in.


1,009 posted on 08/02/2006 4:41:33 PM PDT by casino66 (A beater of dead horses.)
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To: Bahbah; McGavin999
generations...have been steeped in hatred. I really don't know how we are going to fix this.

Japanese had similarly been indoctrinated. They believed they were to be the dominant people in the future as the radical Moslems believe today.

When the Japanese were defeated in WWII they were certain they were defeated. They could no longer have any delusions about their status since their country had been razed.

In the same way the radicals in the ME have to know they have been defeated. While I certainly pity the innocents in Lebanon, the Israelis need to make them and all the radicals certain that terrorism leads to utter defeat.

1,010 posted on 08/02/2006 4:41:38 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: mware

re: Green Helmut guy-

Hopefully the Mossad and CIA know or will know who he is and who he works for


1,011 posted on 08/02/2006 4:42:13 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: McGavin999
Here is a wiki reference:

Sufism

1,012 posted on 08/02/2006 4:45:07 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: hegemony

I know. I'm challenging all of us who know what is going on to challenge the media and our spokespersons.


1,013 posted on 08/02/2006 4:45:10 PM PDT by debg
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To: All
5 cars carrying armed Iranians enter Iraq

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.muslm.net%2Fvb%2Fforumdisplay.php%3Ff%3D63&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

1,014 posted on 08/02/2006 4:46:19 PM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: McGavin999

I will admit that he has been fairly useful. :)


1,015 posted on 08/02/2006 4:47:19 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: bnelson44

yeah but then its like trying to get a drop of black paint out of a bucket of white


1,016 posted on 08/02/2006 4:47:24 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: mware

Yes, I saw it. I edited that graphic and posted a sanitized version about two days ago.


1,017 posted on 08/02/2006 4:47:35 PM PDT by debg
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To: debg

Okie doke- I gotcha. My apologies if I misunderstood your original post.


1,018 posted on 08/02/2006 4:47:53 PM PDT by hegemony
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To: RDTF
I am pretty sure the guys name is Naim Raga. Here are some quote I looked up on the guy. Note he was in Quan in 1996

As yet another body was removed from the wreckage yesterday morning, Naim Raqa, the head of the civil defence team searching the ruins, hung his head in grief: "When they found them, they were all huddled together at the back of the room ... Poor things, they thought the walls would protect them." "Where is the humanity? Why are these massacres being committed against civilians?” asked Naim Raqa, the head of the Lebanese civil defence unit in nearby Jawaya, who was helping the rescue.

Naim Raqa, head of civil defense in the nearby town of Jouaya, sat on a pile of rubble, his black uniform covered in a fine concrete powder.

"I was in Qana in '96," the exhausted rescue worker said. "Israel, when it is weakened, commits bigger massacres.

"We were told about this massacre -- I don't know what time it was. We couldn't move at night, even in ambulances, because of the shelling. They should allow us to move so we can work." He wiped beads of sweat from his brow.

"They were still asleep, hiding. They were all near the walls, huddled in fear. We found many of them like this," he said, drawing his knees and elbows into his chest in a fetal-like position. "The poor things thought the walls would protect them. I had the honor of removing about 15 of them."

His break was interrupted by a colleague calling for stretchers as the bodies of two more young boys were removed, their tiny pajama shorts and T-shirts covered in soil and dust.

Raqa didn't wait for the stretchers to arrive. He scooped up one child; a bystander carried the other

1,019 posted on 08/02/2006 4:48:18 PM PDT by mware
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To: McGavin999

The Sufis have always been considered heretical by mainstream Islam.

However, many Westerners get into Islam through Sufism, because they somehow seem to believe that chanting and spinning around and getting dizzy constitute a "mystical experience." The result is that there are some Western-dominated Sufi sects that basically serve as the open door for flaky "seekers." Ex-actor Ian Dallas (aka Shaykh Abd al-Qadir al-Murabit) is the leader of the Murabitun World Movement, an international sufi brotherhood. Check it out, if you want something really scary:

http://murabitun.cyberummah.org/index.htm


1,020 posted on 08/02/2006 4:49:13 PM PDT by livius
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