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1 posted on 08/01/2006 8:32:43 PM PDT by Flavius
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Dead right.


2 posted on 08/01/2006 8:34:21 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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What are her methods?


3 posted on 08/01/2006 8:35:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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Duh and Shameful.
4 posted on 08/01/2006 8:35:27 PM PDT by msnimje (Uni-FAIL - UN peace keeping force in Lebanon has lived up to its name.)
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ADD = Adults Don't Discipline
5 posted on 08/01/2006 8:37:25 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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DSM-IVR, the diagnostic manual published by the American Psychiatric Press

The Modern Bible.

What friends have described as ADD or ADHD in their children, I see as normal behavior, especially for boys.

It's the culture that has changed, not the energy and exhuberance of childhood.

7 posted on 08/01/2006 8:38:54 PM PDT by happygrl
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Oh Duh...if I remember correctly a book was written in the late 40's to make-up this problem.


8 posted on 08/01/2006 8:38:58 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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When I was a kid the doctor convinced my parents I had ADD because of the numerous reports from my teacher saying I wasn't paying attention in class.

They put me on all kinds of drugs that ended up doing nothing but making me physically ill. No one would believe me that the reason I wasn't paying attention in class all the time was because I found some stuff to be BORING. I always paid close attention to the stuff I loved.

Finally I told my parents there was nothing they could do that would make me take the damn pills again. I was fed up with feeling sick all the time. Thankfully they let me stop taking them and my health immediately got better.

Now I don't know if ADD/ADHD really exists or not. I suspect in a few cases it is a symptom of some other as yet undiscovered condition. In most cases I think it is just kids being kids and parents preferring to shove a pill down their throat so they don't have to deal with their children.

10 posted on 08/01/2006 8:46:16 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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Ping


11 posted on 08/01/2006 8:48:16 PM PDT by Trillian
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IMHO, a joint creation of the drug companies and doctors who cannot recognize a bad kid created by a lack of discipline.


12 posted on 08/01/2006 8:49:44 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Believe it or not, the condition is real. In fact, it persists into adulthood in about 40 percent of the cases.

ADHD is actually a bad name for the condition, as it is much more than an attention deficit, it includes impulsivity, and a host of other symptoms, not to mention that in most cases there are co-morbid conditions like depression, and anxiety disorders.

I was recently diagnosed, and am now being treated. It's hard to tell somebody who doesn't have it what life is like after just a month of treatment. At 31 years old I have to wonder how my life may have been different had I been diagnosed and treated earlier in my life.

Is it over-diagnosed in children? Maybe, but to be honest the side effects of the drugs are not significant in most people who take them, whereas living a life where you're just not able to "get it together" is much more damaging in the long run. Not believing that the disorder exists, doesn't change the fact that there is a host of research gives evidence to the contrary.
19 posted on 08/01/2006 8:59:02 PM PDT by CLRGuy (If crypto is security, then trees are houses.)
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A 20 - December 1, 1996
NATION

Ritalin use is a bar to military service
The reason is that use of the medication indicates an academic skills defect, and the drug is considered behavior modifying.

Cox News Service

When Christopher Gore tried to enlist in the Coast Guard in 1994, he was rejected for having a history of drug use.

But the clean-cut Dillard, Ga. youth was no junkie. The drug he had used was Ritalin, a medication prescribed for attention-deficit disorders.

Scores of young men and women across the country are learning that the Ritalin they took as teenagers is stopping them from serving their country or starting a military career.

"I was shocked and disappointed," said Gore, 22, who is about to start a job selling radio ads. "I didn't expect [Ritalin] to affect my future like this."

Though the Pentagon hasn't tracked the number of people rejected for military service because of Ritalin use, policy planners are increasingly concerned about Ritalin's effect on the future of the military -- particularly in light of the escalating use of Ritalin among schoolchildren. "Ritalin use is a problem for us because we want to qualify as many quality people we can for military service," said Lt. Col. Ed Baldwin.

All branches of the armed forces reject potential enlistees who use Ritalin or similar behavior-modifying medications.

A long-standing Department of Defense directive also instructs the military to reject those with a "chronic history" of an academic skills defect -- including ADD -- after age 12. And people who took Ritalin as teenagers to treat ADD, an inhibitor of academic skills, are rejected from military service, even if they no longer take the medication.

Master Sgt. Cruz Torres, a Marine recruiter, said that at least 1 out of an average of 50 potential recruits who are interviewed every month is rejected because of past or current Ritalin use.

"Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do if a person has been using Ritalin," he said. "It's considered to be a mind-altering drug. Because of that, the services look at it as a very, very serious drug."

Sgt. Carl Voss, a local Air Force recruiter, said he, too, sees one or two potential enlistees disqualified each month because of Ritalin use. If a person struggled in school with ADD, chances are slim for success in the Air force," he said.

"The Air Force is very selective," he said. "All of our classes are college level."

Parents, doctors and teachers are largely unaware that the military services are exempt from the American Disabilities Act and can discriminate against people using such behavior-modifying drugs as Ritalin, recruiters say.

Harold and Jane Gore had no idea that allowing their son to take Ritalin would someday sink his hopes to enlist in the Coast Guard.

The Gores maintain that their son was never hyperactive. But because they were concerned about his academic performance, they took him in 1984 to an Atlanta pediatrician.

The doctor prescribed Ritalin to improve the youth's concentration. Christopher took 10 mg of Ritalin daily from 1985 to 1988 while a student at St. Francis Day School, in Roswell, Ga. He took the medication intermittently through 1991.

A Coast Guard recruiter interviewed Gore on Dec. 22, 1994. Gore passed written and physical tests. When asked about prescription drug use in a questionaire, he mentioned Ritalin.

On Jan. 24, 1995, he was disqualified.

"It was a real disappointment," Gore recalled. "And the irony is that I never wanted to take Ritalin in the first palce."

The Coast Guard recruiter requested a medical waiver for Gore noting his "eagerness to enlist" and his above average scores in math and reading comprehension. The waiver was denied. "Use of Ritalin after age 12 years," was cited as the reason.

Gore said he later met a group of Marine recruiters who encouraged him to enlist. They advised him not to disclose his past Ritalin use, he said. But the recruiters subsequently found that Gore's medical disqualification had already been extended to all branches of the military.

Since 1990, the use of Ritalin nationwide has increased sixfold. The U.S. Department of Education estimates that 3 percent to 5 percent of all children under the age of 18 have ADD.

The burgeoning use of Ritalin is prompting military planners to take a closer look at ADD and how it might affect future manpower needs. The Pentagon is studying the training the training-camp performance of former Ritalin users who enlisted with the help of a medical waiver, said policy-planner Baldwin, a medical doctor.

20 posted on 08/01/2006 8:59:51 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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ADD is a catch-all diagnosis for: lack of discipline, lack of respect, staying up late, watching TV, and lots of other things. I think its also due to the anti-male attitude of many of the feminist NEA teachers.

But IMHO the main reason is poor diet and too much sugar! You don't know how much sugar we consume until you try the Atkin's diet and check the carbohydrate amount on the package. This parallels the epidemic of obesity we see everyday.


21 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:06 PM PDT by limitedgov
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Jane Fendelman, MC
22 posted on 08/01/2006 9:03:40 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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click here to view jane's video on treating add/adhd without drugs
23 posted on 08/01/2006 9:05:23 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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I don't have time to post the links or any more info tonight except the following. There is a type of disorder that is highly similar to ADD ADHD and can not be treated with ADD ADHD protocols usually. It's called C.A.P.D. Or Central Auditory Processing Disorders. It's very real and much more likely than ADD ADHD. Shrinks don't diagnose it but Audiologist and Speech Pathologist test for it. The behavioral symptoms are close as are many of the academic problems.

The condition has nothing to do with discipline and has likely existed through out mans history but was not a problem as sensory stimulation was not as it is today. The problem is the sensory triggering events {bombardment} were not prevalent up until the past two decades. I would take any child who exhibits ADD ADHD or learning problems for testing. BTW my sources on this do not come from mental health related sites but rather sites related to Vestibular Disorders. IOW no skewing from Big Pharm. Audiologist and Speech Pathologist can not prescribe any medications :>}

28 posted on 08/01/2006 9:12:05 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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over 80% of the kids prescribed ritilin are boys.

I know I'm probably going to get flamed or have some people roll their eyes, but I truely believe its part of the "vaginization" agenda of public school system in the US where everything is about empowering girls and everything is about making sure the girls succeed and boys are supposed to just shutup, stop acting like boys, and act like robots.

Any display of normal male behavior, the parents are called in, told the boy has ADD, and get him on ritilin or he'll be put in special ed.


33 posted on 08/01/2006 9:22:39 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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For thousands of years "some" kids have been "spoiled"..
Its not a disease.. but it is a malady.. a malady in/of the parents..
38 posted on 08/01/2006 9:30:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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Health Experts Warn of Antidepressant Dangers for Children, Teens

56 posted on 08/01/2006 9:46:48 PM PDT by Coleus ("God hates moderates, Revelation 3:15-16")
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Fendelman explains that drugging children is not the same as curing them.....

Gee! Ya Think?
I give thanks that I was a kid back in the 40's.
I feel sorry for todays kids. I really do.

58 posted on 08/01/2006 9:49:05 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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A comment from Jane Fendelman's website:

A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO ADHD, July 22, 2001

Niki Nymark, MSW, LCSW (St. Louis, MO USA)

As a clinical professional, I can recommend this book to parents, teachers and others who work or live with children diagnosed with ADD, ADHD and related problems. The author builds on her experience and excellent theoretical knowledge to describe behavioral alternatives to a medication model of treatment. A staunch opponent of drug therapy for children, Ms. Fendelman provides reassuring, sensible advice for parents--and some laughter along the way.


65 posted on 08/01/2006 9:58:52 PM PDT by limitedgov
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