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Toyota, Honda report sales jump in July
AP via Yahoo ^

Posted on 08/01/2006 5:10:40 PM PDT by SmoothTalker

DETROIT - Amid steep gas prices, Toyota Motor Corp. rode its reputation for fuel-efficient cars to a double-digit sales increase in July and outsold Ford in the U.S. for the first month ever. Honda Motor Co. also reported robust sales.

" At Ford, sales of Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles fell 35.2 percent. Truck sales tumbled 44.8 percent, while cars slipped 6.7 percent. Sales of F-Series pickup trucks, long the country's best-selling vehicle and the company's most important vehicle, shot down 45.6 percent."

" Toyota's sales, meanwhile, soared 11.7 percent, with cars jumping 19.8 percent and trucks up 1.3 percent. The company outsold Ford by more than 17,000 vehicles."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; autosales; autoshop; economy; energy; honda; toyota
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To: danmar

I do believe that there will be standard and heavy duty offerings. Obviously you can't tow 15000 lbs with a Ford F-150 or Chevy 1500. You would need model that was built for extreme application.


21 posted on 08/01/2006 6:53:42 PM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: SmoothTalker
Dear Honda,

You're welcome.

P.S. - I like the new Pilot.

22 posted on 08/01/2006 6:54:21 PM PDT by SaveTheChief ("Now if you'll excuse me, I have some idea balls to remove from a manatee tank.")
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To: SmoothTalker

I take pleasure in noting this headline is most certainly a result of my own purchase last evening of a 2007 Toyota Yaris to be used in the vocation of delivering food for a well-known local Italian restaurant opening a new location a week from today. 7/31/06 was a great day to wheel and deal for a Toyota.


23 posted on 08/01/2006 7:00:32 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: SmoothTalker

A little anecdotal evidence here-last Saturday I took my 16-yo son car shopping. We hit all the dealerships, and the so-called "Big 3" )Chrysler, Ford, Chevy) were abandoned. Really! NO customers at all at either of them when we stopped...
OTOH, the Honda and Toyota dealers were packed-I had trouble finding a place to park at the Toyota place. At the Toyota dealership, ALL the salespeople were busy. At the Honda dealer, there were a few salespeople available, and I got help immediately.
We looked at a Honda Fit, which was sold as we were looking at it! Looked at the 2007 Civic, with which my son and I fell in love! 30 city, 40 highway on a LOADED Civic w/ auto trans.
Saleslady said no deals on the Fit or Civic, but they'd talk turkey on the Accords, Pilots, and CRV's.
All I'm sayin' is; try to beat that Civic at a Chevy, Ford, or Chrysler dealer-can't be done...no wonder GM, Ford & Chrysler are hurting!


24 posted on 08/01/2006 7:03:45 PM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: SamAdams76
Very well said. Can't wait for those posters that come on these type of threads to tell us we are trading with the enemy when we buy Toyota or Honda.

However I'm having a tough time trying to decide which truck I want to maybe buy next year. The Chevy Avalanche, built on the 2007 Tahoe Platform has caught my eye and I'm impressed. Still leaning towards the Honda Ridge line or the 2007 Toyota Tundra.
25 posted on 08/01/2006 7:15:20 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Prodn2000
Obviously you can't tow 15000 lbs with a Ford F-150 or Chevy 1500. You would need model that was built for extreme application.

As I stated, the 350(Ford), 3500 Dodge,Chevy trucks will have that capacity.Nevertheless the F-150, 1500 Dodge,Chevy have the capacity of towing at 7500 LBS while fully loaded. I have yet to see a Toyota doing this kind of thing.(it is an axle thing)

As a matter of fact, over the weekend I saw a Toyota Tundra V8, loaded with two quads, and equipment and it was squatting!.

26 posted on 08/01/2006 7:23:37 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: Deepest South
That would be found in Toyota's heavy truck division. Hino

Comparing apples and oranges comes to mind!

27 posted on 08/01/2006 7:25:57 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: MaDuce

Um... Nissan's already announced that that's exactly what's coming in 08-09. And it's likely going to have a Cummins Turbo Diesel, since DC is most likely going to use a Mercedes diesel.


28 posted on 08/01/2006 7:28:31 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Prodn2000

Nissan's going to build a Titan 2500 (with Dana HD axles) and by implication a 3500, so there's nothing to worry about there. :)


29 posted on 08/01/2006 7:31:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: danmar

You might want to reread those manuals. An F-150 loaded to max payload *cannot* legally tow anything.

It's a weight thing. (Trailer tongue weight.)


30 posted on 08/01/2006 7:34:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mozarky2
My 19 year old daughter drives a 1992 Civic. It averages 32 MPG in the city. Has 185,000 miles, still going strong. Engine is as tight as the day I bought it. No leaks, no smoke, runs smooth as a Swiss watch.

I drove it for 8 years, about 60 miles a day commuting to work. My son turned 16 and I gave it to him. He drove it HARD for about 3 years while he was in H.S. but never hurt it. Then about 3 years ago, he passed it down to my daughter. She is using it at college in Illinois now.

Well, my baby is 12 and I told her that in 4 years it will be her turn. She is so mad because it'll be about 19 years old and she doesn't want an "old" car. I told her tough, the Honda is built to last forever... LOL! Her turn will come. When gas is $5 gallon she'll thank me ... LOL.

31 posted on 08/01/2006 7:42:29 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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To: SamAdams76; Las Vegas Dave

I've been searching for the 4th biggest U.S. car maker.

Since I can't find the figures, I feel that Chrysler shouldn't be part of the "Top 3" since that would imply competition, whereas they really won by default.


32 posted on 08/01/2006 8:00:16 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: The South Texan
However I'm having a tough time trying to decide which truck I want to maybe buy next year. The Chevy Avalanche, built on the 2007 Tahoe Platform has caught my eye and I'm impressed. Still leaning towards the Honda Ridge line or the 2007 Toyota Tundra.

Talking about been confused...
Comparing Avalanche/Tahoe long base with Ridgeline is a no, no.{Ridgeline is a car(Pilot)with a hole in the back, not a truck) Tundra and Avalanche totally apart!(Tundra sort of a truck, Avalanche modified long base Tahoe with a quasi truck bed in the rear)

33 posted on 08/01/2006 8:10:56 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: Spktyr
You might want to reread those manuals. An F-150 loaded to max payload *cannot* legally tow anything.

We can argue about that all day long. (who reads the stinking manuals anyway?) Real life test proves it, and I should know it, I work in the business.(trucks mind you)

34 posted on 08/01/2006 8:45:20 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: danmar

The cops read the manuals - and they issue tickets.

If you load up to max GVWR, you cannot then attach a trailer - legally.

That said, in the half-ton class the base Nissan Titan beats all but a few of the heavily up-optioned F-150s in terms of payload AND towing.


35 posted on 08/01/2006 8:47:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
That said, in the half-ton class the base Nissan Titan beats all but a few of the heavily up-optioned F-150s in terms of payload AND towing.

Ahh, but real life plays otherwise than Car&Driver, Truck Magazine etc. kissing up to the Nissans,Toyotas,Hondas of the world.
I drive upward of 145 miles a day on the Freeway every day, and frankly I have yet to see a Nissan Titan/Toyota Tundra rigged as a work truck, and I mean real construction work truck towing a backhoe to boot.

Plenty of them out here set up for the Lawn Mowers...

36 posted on 08/01/2006 9:08:59 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: SamAdams76

I work with 7 OEM Automaker companies at 40 manufacturing locations in US, CAN, MX, JP and UK.
Ford has, by far, the lowest integrity at each location. I'm convinced it's part of the culture. Crooked at every level from Purchasing to Design to Plant-level contacts. They can go under for all I care and we'd all be better off.


37 posted on 08/01/2006 9:15:27 PM PDT by Tigercap
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To: Spktyr
...hey, you are from Texas, what's the name of the Texan Cadillac? Furthermore if you were standing on a major intersection and counting the trucks going thru, how many Nissan's/Toyota's v/s domestic would that be?

Care to speculate?

38 posted on 08/01/2006 9:16:51 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is hydrogen and stupidity")
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To: danmar

In terms of GVWR and GCVWR, the Titan beats all but some of the up-optioned F-150s.

There's plenty of them down here in truck country, Dallas. At least one contractor down here has replaced their entire fleet with Titans.


39 posted on 08/01/2006 9:18:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: danmar

Right now, the Suburban's sales aren't looking so hot.

And right now, looking around, the mix is about 50% imports, 50% domestics in terms of trucks here.


40 posted on 08/01/2006 9:19:29 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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