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Israel is playing us for fools (gloves off Pat Buchanan's hatred of Jews)
RCP ^ | 8/1/06 | Buchanan

Posted on 08/01/2006 9:37:29 AM PDT by pabianice

"Everyone in southern Lebanon is a terrorist and is connected to Hezbollah," roared Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon on July 27.

"Every village from which a Katyusha is fired must be destroyed," bellowed an Israeli general in a quote bannered by the nation's largest newspaper, Yedioth Ahronoth.

The Israeli paper then summarized what the justice minister and general were saying: "In other words, a village from which rockets are fired at Israel will simply be destroyed by fire." That was Thursday.

Sunday, in Qana, 57 of Haim Ramon's "terrorists," 37 of them children, were massacred with precision-guided bombs. Apparently, Katyushas had been fired from Qana, near the destroyed building.

"One who goes to sleep with rockets shouldn't be surprised if he doesn't wake up in the morning," said Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, Dan Gillerman.

Today, we hear unctuous statements about how Israel takes pains to avoid civilian casualties, drops leaflets to warn civilians to flee target areas, and conforms to all the rules of civilized warfare.

But Israel's words and deeds contradict her propaganda. As the war began, Ehud Olmert accused Lebanon, which had condemned Hezbollah for the killing and capture of the Israeli soldiers, of an "act of war." Army Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz publicly threatened "to turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years."

Gillerman, at a pro-Israel rally in New York, thundered, "[T]o those countries who claim that we are using disproportionate force, I have only this to say: You're damn right we are."

"His comments drew wild applause," said the Jerusalem Post.

Entire filthy thing here

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: achtungcorner; ayatollahpat; buchanan; coughlinjunior; israel; jewsrippedmyflesh; jewsundermybed; mullahpat; patbuchanan; pitchforkpat
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To: RayStacy
I just also read the column after seeing your post.

That is some seriously convoluted illogical reasoning going on there. I also checked out his profile via Google.

I wonder what ever happened to that guy. He is nuts.
101 posted on 08/01/2006 12:50:59 PM PDT by Radix (Somehow, my Flux Capacitor got crossed up with my Interocitor.)
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To: Jameison
"Yup. And Bob Novak is every bit as much a Jew-hater as Pat Buchanan is, and Pat Buchanan is nuts."

I don't know if they hate Israel and Jews but they certainly don't think Jews are worth defending. If there was another holocaust, which is what will happen if the Muslims have their way, Novak and Buchanan would not want to get involved. They would stand back and let it happen. What kind of person would do that? Okay maybe they are Jew haters.

102 posted on 08/01/2006 1:42:41 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: bert

yup


103 posted on 08/01/2006 2:38:45 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Finalapproach29er

:)


104 posted on 08/01/2006 2:39:43 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

And Gibson is making amends.

Good point!


105 posted on 08/01/2006 2:40:32 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842

Which is a lot more than Pat is trying to do.


106 posted on 08/01/2006 2:42:56 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: pabianice
Patrick Buchanan has finally attained a unchallenged position of irrelevance.

The solution is to ignore him.

107 posted on 08/01/2006 2:45:12 PM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: pabianice
Another missive from the Achtung Corner?
108 posted on 08/01/2006 2:47:11 PM PDT by Invisible Gorilla
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To: pabianice; Petronski; nopardons; rcocean

What a jackass....

But I'm sure the Buchanan jackals will be along soon enough to defend their "fair-haired" boy.....


109 posted on 08/01/2006 2:48:26 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Pat Buchanan has a serious problem with the Jewish people. Evil of the heart.


110 posted on 08/01/2006 10:48:12 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: cvq3842; pabianice

<< Sounds like he's been drinking with Mel Gibson. >>

Uncalled-for.

Mr Gibson has spent 35 years living and working in an industry in which the Jewish People are very well represented, without there having ever been the slightest hint of his being involved in an antisemitic action or activity.

(One drunken flash of angry alcoholic grandiosity does not an antisemite make!)

Buchannan, on the other hand, has a long antisemitic and anti-Israel track record.


111 posted on 08/02/2006 3:16:09 AM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur -- GINGRICH/TANCREDO2008)
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To: Brian Allen

Fair enough - a cheap shot but intended as a joke.

Thanks for calling me on it.


112 posted on 08/02/2006 5:32:10 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: pabianice

Pat's not anti-semitic, he's anti-zionist. The distinction is important to understanding Pat's article. He is also anti-dispensationalist and an isolationist. Now, we can argue with his stance re: international terrorism post-9/11, that he needs to heed the warning presented by a Neville Chamberlain in the face of a nazi-like threat coming at us. But I think one need take this viewpoint seriously, not so dismissively. Look at history: English, although buying properties in the new colonies, basically stole the native's properties, not least of which was Jackson's Trail of Tears and Polk's Mexican-American War. Well, now the followers of Theodor Herzl ("Zionists") have done much as the settlers here did: start by fairly settling/buying mostly unutilized property, then slowly encroaching on other's properties, then wontonly grabbing by sheer force that property of others, claiming "Manifest Destiny". --I'm not against the modern state of Israel--any democratic state we need as a friend in this world!--but I think one needs to keep in mind the hypocrisy involved in taking natives' territories in very disingenuous ways, whether this process take place circa 1760-1912 in N. America, or in 1948-1973 Israeli/Palestinian territories. Manifest Destiny as a justification for what any fair law would deem theft needs to be understood in both contexts.


113 posted on 08/02/2006 9:42:31 PM PDT by JulienBenda ("Youth is wasted on the young."--George Bernard Shaw!)
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To: OldFriend

#111 ping


114 posted on 08/03/2006 10:53:19 PM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur -- GINGRICH/TANCREDO2008)
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To: cvq3842

It was funny, in a cheap shot sort of way :)

And by the way, Gibson's apology and request for help suggests that he didn't consider is ranting to be just the alcohol speaking.


115 posted on 08/03/2006 11:07:33 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: JulienBenda

Oh boy. A lot to respond to here. I would point out, though, that Israel had historical claims to the land going back thousands of years.

That's the issue in a nutshell, isn't it? Israel's right to exist. I believe strongly that it has that right. I know some others disagree.

And the US? At least the French haven't asked for the Louisiana Purchase back! Although some have said that Napoleon betrayed the French nation by selling it too cheap to finance his wars. Might make a good case for the International Court in the Hague to resolve. (sarcasm)


116 posted on 08/04/2006 3:59:03 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Dolphy

I'm not usually so flippant.

I have known angry drunks and sad drunks. It always seems to me that there is a kernel of belief in drunken rantings.


117 posted on 08/04/2006 4:00:20 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: pabianice

Pat needs to have his head examined.


118 posted on 08/04/2006 4:02:55 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Dolphy
Saw on TV last night that this asking for help from the ones he's insulted is an old ploy.

He made some ugly comments about homosexuals and when there was objection to his slur he asked forgiveness and a chance to meet with homosexuals to make amends.

I see a typical PR pattern of offense here.

119 posted on 08/04/2006 5:22:48 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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