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1 posted on 07/31/2006 12:29:38 PM PDT by veronica
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That bad actor and worse director Mel Gibson

Yes, he is an idiot and has a drinking problem but to call him a bad actor and worse director is, in my opinion, incorrect.

2 posted on 07/31/2006 12:32:19 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: veronica

I believe that we now know Mel's true colors, but this piece is a prime example of really awful writing.


3 posted on 07/31/2006 12:32:25 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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There was more than only antiSemitism that Gibson did badly.


4 posted on 07/31/2006 12:32:36 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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While I've often wondered about Hitchens' obvious hatred of Israel (which might explain his rush to attack someone else for this reason--"No, no, there's a REAL anti-Semite!")...he happens to be right. You don't just get drunk and turn into a Jew-hater. Something you're holding in emerges.


5 posted on 07/31/2006 12:32:58 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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One can tell from the photo that he included in his article that Hitchens isn't much of a Gibson fan...


6 posted on 07/31/2006 12:34:49 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: veronica

In Mel's defense, he said nothing that Hillary Clinton or the New York Times haven't already said.


8 posted on 07/31/2006 12:35:16 PM PDT by Always Right
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Where was the,

"He is sick to his empty core with man-boy love."

... comments about Michael Jackson? I don't seem to remember those.
9 posted on 07/31/2006 12:35:42 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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"Mad Max: Beyond the Blunderdome"


10 posted on 07/31/2006 12:36:03 PM PDT by Minnesocold ("The public demand to protect our borders will triumph sooner or later." - Tony Blankley)
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To: veronica

Pat Buchanan is a Jew-hater, but since he hates Bush just as much, all is good.


11 posted on 07/31/2006 12:36:10 PM PDT by Always Right
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"Bad actor and worse director"?? Hitchens needs to get real. Whatever else Gibson might be, these do not apply.


12 posted on 07/31/2006 12:36:26 PM PDT by GSlob
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I hear some whining from somewhere off to the left, I wonder what it is.....


14 posted on 07/31/2006 12:37:00 PM PDT by ReaganandDubyaForever
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He is sick to his empty core with Jew-hatred.

Oh, please. I am going to need more evidence than a single drunken tirade to reach that conclusion.

17 posted on 07/31/2006 12:38:51 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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People who get DUI's don't normall have 8 pages of information largely unrelated to the crime itself transcribed by law enforrcement.

But please, Mel... get help... and realize that that guy you made a movie about was and still is a Jew.

19 posted on 07/31/2006 12:40:25 PM PDT by Nice50BMG (3 books to read this year: The Bible (God), Bringing Up Boys (Dobson), Winning the Future (Newt))
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Shut up Hitchens. Mel is an a$$hole but so are you. You dislike anyone that believes in God. That's your real beef. The biggest problem with Mel isn't that he expressed some anti-semitic views. His biggest problem is that he is a selfish drunk. Maybe Hitchens doesn't want to focus on that problem because it hits a little too close to home. BTW, I enjoy both Gibson and Hitchens, but they are both a$$holes.


20 posted on 07/31/2006 12:40:43 PM PDT by beaversmom
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I think Christopher Hitchens' ad hominem against Mel Gibson damages his own credibility. He comes off as a hate-filled fanatic with a personal ax to grind. There's plenty to criticize about Gibson without resorting to this kind of attack.


21 posted on 07/31/2006 12:40:50 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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His vulgar and nasty movies, which also feature this prejudice, are additionally replete with the cheapest caricatures of the English.

In the movies in question the English were the villains. It is quite traditional in movies to make the villains as bad as possible. I believe it is something to do with dramatic effect.

Although the herding of civilians into a church and then burning it down in The Patriot was a tad over the top.

Tarleton was not averse to the odd atrocity, but nothing like that is recorded, which it would have been.

23 posted on 07/31/2006 12:41:01 PM PDT by Restorer
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Well, my South Park Collector's Edition of Passion of the Jew is probably worth even more now.

>>Premiering just one month after The Passion of the Christ was released in theaters, this typically outrageous episode tore into Mel Gibson's film with characteristic glee, ruthlessly condemning Gibson's courtship of controversy and depicting Gibson as a raving, greedy, egotistical lunatic (recalling the classic first season episode "Mecha-Streisand") while promoting a fair-minded appreciation of Christ's teachings over the relentless violence of Gibson's film. Perfectly playing off established character conflicts, the episode pits Mel-worshipping Cartman (who embraces Gibson's alleged anti-Semitism to justify his own homespun Nazi revival) against Kyle, who is traumatized by Gibson's film into feeling guilty about his own Jewish heritage. Never ones to flinch from taboo topics or political correctness, series creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone outdid themselves with this amazingly rapid response to Gibson's film, and it's destined to rank as an all-time South Park classic. <<

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ERX22/sr=8-1/qid=1154374774/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-9843718-5979904?ie=UTF8


25 posted on 07/31/2006 12:41:18 PM PDT by gondramB (Named must your fear be before banish it you can.)
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This article is retarded. Gibson is a great actor, otherwise he couldn't keep this crap under wraps for so long. To say he is a poor director is folly.

God has used some really terrible people to do great things in the past. Mel Gibson harboring anti-semitic feelings and drinking a lot is bad, but its not like he sent his lover's husband off die in battle or he had anyone who disagrees with his theology killed. Perspective, people, perspective.

27 posted on 07/31/2006 12:41:41 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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Much ado about nothing. Gibson was attacked by a number of Jewish organizations for his Passion of the Christ. Where was the outrage when the anti-semites Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ran for President? What has Hillary said about the Jews? Selective outrage is only for people like Gibosn who buck the system.


28 posted on 07/31/2006 12:41:54 PM PDT by kabar
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Braveheart and The Patriot are two of the most laughable historical films ever made.

Quite the opposite, they were two of his best films. Remember, Christopher Hitchens is a brit, and it has to be looked upon in that light.

29 posted on 07/31/2006 12:42:32 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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