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'Tar baby’ quip lands Mitt in muddle
Boston Herald ^ | 07/31/06 | Laurel J. Sweet

Posted on 07/31/2006 6:33:52 AM PDT by JRochelle

Prominent black Bay Staters are outraged by Gov. Mitt Romney’s use of the words “tar baby” to describe the Big Dig as he stumped for presidential points in Iowa. “Tar baby is a totally inappropriate phrase in the 21st century. If Calvin Coolidge didn’t use it, why the hell should Mitt Romney?” railed Larry Jones, a black Republican and civil rights activist. Tar baby can refer to a sticky mess, but it also has been recognized as an epithet to humiliate black people. President Bush’s spokesman Tony Snow learned that in May when his expression, “I don’t want to hug the tar baby of trying to comment on the program,” raised the hackles of political correctness. “He thinks he’s presidential timber,” Jones said yesterday of Romney, “but all he’s shown us is arrogance.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: hypersensitivity; niggardly; romney; tarbaby
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To: sportutegrl

My mother-in-law got it for me on DVD, from Canada.

We had taken her to Joel Chandler Harris' house, the author of the Uncle Remus stories. And we spoke to the museum staff. The ladies who ran the site were African American, and they said they loved the series and were so pleased that Harris had shared this with the rest of the world.

Harris had learned these tales from African-Americans that he knew, they were fire-side stories told for generations. And he preserved them by writing the children's book.

It is through today's hour glass that they are seen as being racist. But when they were written, no one saw them that way. Harris had stuck closely to the oral tradition and did not change the tales.

Try to explain all of that to Disney, today.


81 posted on 07/31/2006 7:46:03 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: bwteim
Malaysia, where "parents are not allowed to name their babies after animals, insects, fruits, vegetables or colours. "


Which makes the perfect baby-name "Red-Squash-Bug".
82 posted on 07/31/2006 7:51:24 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: JRochelle
Larry Jones, a black Republican and civil rights activist

Probably refuses to use aspirin cause you have to pick cotton to get at them.

83 posted on 07/31/2006 7:53:20 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: albee

Heheh.


84 posted on 07/31/2006 7:53:27 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: goldstategop

Several months ago I went to the library with my daughter to get some books so I could read stories to her at night.

I picked up a copy of Uncle Remus's Tales. It was a book my Mom read to me when I was a child.

When I was checking out, the black librarian gave me the nastiest look. I didn't understand why she did this until later.

I guess that this is still offensive to some blacks, although I don't really know why.

Anyone who has read the book knows that the "Tar Baby" is literally a baby made of tar, and has nothing to do with race.


85 posted on 07/31/2006 7:55:25 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: theDentist
"....Even white democrats are chastised for such phrases."

Only if Je$$e Jack$on or RevAl can make a buck off it.

86 posted on 07/31/2006 7:56:50 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: JRochelle

Calvin Coolidge is a bad example. He hardly used any phrases at all.


87 posted on 07/31/2006 7:56:54 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: msnimje
"A dark, oily, viscous material, consisting mainly of hydrocarbons, produced by the destructive distillation of organic substances such as wood, coal, or peat -- baby" I rather like 'tar' better.
88 posted on 07/31/2006 7:57:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
The ignorant always lose their roots and traditions, and thusly remain ignorant throughout their succession of generations. Though many descendants will be intelligent enough to avoid the folly of their ignorant ancestors, they are then cast out for abandoning "traditions". Vicious cycle.
89 posted on 07/31/2006 7:58:24 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I had to read your perfect name twice; LOL.


90 posted on 07/31/2006 7:59:25 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: msnimje
Only an idiot would not know that the phrase "Tar Baby" was (and is) used in some contexts by some people as racist.

So everyone who doesn't spend time with people who use racist language, and therefore never hears "tar baby" used in a racist context, is an idiot?

Puh-leeze.

91 posted on 07/31/2006 8:01:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: Armigerous
...actually his name was Joel Chandler HARRIS

Hey, I was lucky my brain dredged up that much. I almost attributed them to A. B. Frost, the illustrator.

92 posted on 07/31/2006 8:02:19 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: EEDUDE

We have a copy of Uncle Remus' Tales that we picked up at a used book store somewhere. I think some are offended by the author's transcription of Southern dialect.


93 posted on 07/31/2006 8:02:46 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: American_Centurion

"Though many descendants will be intelligent enough to avoid the folly of their ignorant ancestors, they are then cast out for abandoning "traditions". Vicious cycle."


In the context of this thread, could that be a "viscous" cycle?


94 posted on 07/31/2006 8:08:09 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Tax-chick

I shudder every time I hear the term "paddy wagon" or the phrase "has their Irish up".. Also the references to Irish and drinking.... Where are my reparations????


95 posted on 07/31/2006 8:09:07 AM PDT by seamusnh
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To: JRochelle
Tar baby can refer to a sticky mess, but it also has been recognized as an epithet to humiliate black people.

It is abundantly clear that Mitts invocation of the phrase was for its first listed meaning.. and that term is pretty darn appropriate for what the Big Dig is, those that are outraged by it are idiots.

96 posted on 07/31/2006 8:10:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cloud8
White people are not offended by terms such as "Cracker" (i.e. The Atlanta Crackers), "Gringo", "Honkey", "Redneck" ("If your house has wheels but your truck doesn't, you might be a..."), or "Hillbilly" ("Come and listen to a story 'bout a man named Jed")!

Why should black folks be offended by literature characters like "Tar Baby" or "Sambo"? Or a description of their ancestors military/hunting technique like "Spear Chucker"? Or the French word for Black...Negro ("The United Negro College Fund")?

Don't forget what the initials NAACP stand for!

97 posted on 07/31/2006 8:10:46 AM PDT by TheTruthAintPretty (G-d Bless our brothers and sisters in harm's way - may they return to us healthy and sane!)
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To: mkjessup
Oh grow a freaking HIDE for gawdsakes!!!!

I suspect the famous (and side-splitting) "job interview/word association" SNL skit with Richard Pyor and Chevy Chase would never be made today.

98 posted on 07/31/2006 8:13:03 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: JRochelle

A "tar baby" down here in Southern Ohio would be the newborn kid of the Michelin Man.


99 posted on 07/31/2006 8:13:25 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: -YYZ-

Viscous cycle would also be a great name for a band.


100 posted on 07/31/2006 8:15:07 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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