7/31 Middle East Live Thread

"Okay...I understand where you are coming from...I have seen Bush being called that on DUmmieland."

The thought also occurred to me that BOR did know about the Bush/Chimp reference, but wanted to portray it as racist for good reason. That's also a possibility.

2,041 posted on 07/31/2006 8:56:50 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)

except that in 38 - the bad guys had the best military in the world (until US forces built up). today, the bad guys cannot win militarily. the only way they can win, is for the media and the world community to intervene on their behalf - causing the West to be unwilling to fight the total war needed to defeat them.

Not at all true. The British fleet was far superior to the German and the French should have been able to deal with the Italians in the Med. The French army was several times the size of the German Army and the CHAR B1 was far superior to any tank the Germans could field and the British Matilda had armor so thick that it could not be penetrated by any gun on a German tank in use in 1940.

In fact with the exception of the Panzer divisions the German army was equipped much as it had been in WWI. British and French should have been able to make short work of the Germans. Had the western allies attacked all out against the open German frontier while the Panzer divisions, the only ones that could maneuver, and the entire Luftwaffe were slicking Poland, they could have been in the heart of the German industrial territory and forced the Germans to fight on the defensive, and being badly outnumbered the Germans could not have lasted long in that mode.

However history shows that the French and British forces were handled timidly and ineptly. They spread out their tanks over the whole continent so that while they had a three to one superiority in numbers overall at any point on the battlefield the Germans had the edge. Instead of taking the offensive they sheltered behind their forts and allowed Germany a year to reposition their troops and launch a carefully prepared strike. Any of this sounding familiar yet?

When France surrendered they still hand twice as many tanks as the Germans. They could have fought the streets of Paris like the Russians did in Stalingrad, taking away the maneuverability advantage of the Panzer troops and forcing the Germans to bring up their slow unmotorized infantry divisions. But of course it would have meant reducing Paris to rubble. And we all know the choice the French made.

All the material in the world will do you no good if you are afraid to use it.

2,043 posted on 07/31/2006 8:57:53 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)

I was too late. All I got was that weinie Anderson Cooper.

2,044 posted on 07/31/2006 8:58:49 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT!)

2,045 posted on 07/31/2006 8:58:55 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))

To: olde north church

It's amazing how BOR is never wrong, isn't it? Just like the comment (albeit true) he made about Hezbollah in his memo?

2,046 posted on 07/31/2006 8:59:10 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)

After break Batchelor now on to Mel Gibson...

WTH, enough of the Mel story already. Just drunk talk.

2,047 posted on 07/31/2006 8:59:22 PM PDT by Mr Cobol (Quit swatting at flies and go after the manure pile. Curtis LeMay on VIET NAM WAR!)

To: Knitting A Conundrum

Being lazy is part of my problem. Heh. But will still try to cope with less sleep.

2,048 posted on 07/31/2006 8:59:22 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)

It was so utterly plain and simple. Also very humble.

2,049 posted on 07/31/2006 9:00:16 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)

WTH, enough of the Mel story already. Just drunk talk

John Gibson was all over the Mel Gibson story today too. I thought enough already, he's not a big story in the future of the world, FGS.

2,050 posted on 07/31/2006 9:02:03 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT!)

Just drunk talk.

Exactly. There but for the grace of God go all of us who have ever pontificated senselessly (but extremely vociferously!) while in our cups.

2,051 posted on 07/31/2006 9:03:07 PM PDT by JennysCool (Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)

The guy he interviewed, some producer, sounded drunk. Couldn't stop laughing at ridiculousness of the whole thing -- Gibson mouthing off to the arresting cop about the Elders of Zion.

2,052 posted on 07/31/2006 9:03:35 PM PDT by CedarDave (Cindy bought land in Crawford but deceived her neighbors. The Texas welcome is warm but not friendly)

Why then, did the UN postpone Iran's resolution until August 30th then??

My thought too.

Ahmadinejad has made a promise in re: the 22nd. Will he lose face in the Muslim world, if nothing earth-shattering comes from Iran on that date? Will he let that happen?

2,053 posted on 07/31/2006 9:04:03 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)

Has Castro died? Or is he about to?

(Not that I plan to lose any sleep about it if he is, that's for sure).

2,054 posted on 07/31/2006 9:04:36 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT!)

2,055 posted on 07/31/2006 9:05:07 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)

To: JustaCowgirl

He is just in the hospital. He temporarily ceeded power to his brother because he may be out of it for a few weeks. I think people are going over board. But then again, he is 75.

2,056 posted on 07/31/2006 9:05:58 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))

To: La Enchiladita; Txsleuth

Good night sleuth, RDTF, and everyone. I'm about to hit the hay as well.

2,057 posted on 07/31/2006 9:06:24 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT!)

To: JustaCowgirl

See ya. I'm taking a break ...

2,058 posted on 07/31/2006 9:07:42 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)

To: Knitting A Conundrum

I appreciate the advice. 5 fans going now plus the a/c (which will allow me to sleep) in the bedroom. I'm thinking tomorrow might be a good day to clean the basement as it is the coolest place in the house. And yes, I know that N.O. residences don't have basements:) I am a salt addict ( not usually a good thing to be, but) and I drink everything in sight (well...you know what I mean)...Luigi's ice is good for bringing body temp down.

2,059 posted on 07/31/2006 9:09:02 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)

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