Posted on 07/30/2006 2:06:41 PM PDT by rface
Rush Limbaugh announced on his show that the GOP house internal polling shows a circa 30 seat loss for 2006.
It is hard for me to write much on this subject, as internal polling is secretive and not generaly available to public scrutiny. But there are some thoughts for discussion here.
One, is Rush correct? I don't think Rush makes it up as he goes along. He is human, and can make errors (as can anybody talking solo for 15 hours a week). But I haven't known him to lie outright on a political matter ever. I believe Rush has reported what he has gleaned from a GOP member of congress or a staffer.
Two, is the information correct? Is it a leak, or a misinformation campaign? I guess I don't see much value in leaking incorrect data to Rush exagerating a potential house loss. So I tend to believe the leaker was being accurate.
Three, should Rush have reported this (and should I write about it)? No to the first part. Internal polling is not meant to be leaked or reported. Once millions of Rush listeners have the info, it is already public and so I offer it here for your analysis.
Four, implications? Internal polling isn't the "for public" polling that you get from groups like Zogby, Gallup, Rasmussen, etc. Internal polling is the hard core, scientific, no spin accurate stuff that the candidates and the parties get and is held close to their vests. Only the best of the best work directly for the parties and candidates. My point is that if the information Rush reported is accurate, there are dark times ahead.
Implications go beyond this too. With the recent failure of the GOP by raising the minimum wage and cutting (but enshrining) a major tax, and with no movement on issues like arctic and offshore drilling, the slow pace of federal court appointments, and unreal spending, the GOP is losing the base. Despite our war on terror and a robust economy, Americans see casualty numbers and gas prices.
Having just adjourned for a recess, I see little the house can do other than campaign localy in the near term. If we blow this election we have no one to blame other than ourselves (a moderate to liberal GOP senate and a spend happy house).
"Where have you gone Ronald Reagan, a nation turns it's lonely eyes to you".
Yep. RINOs are always preferable to Pelosi and Conyers.
Can you imagine a socialist matriarchy of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, Barbara Boxer as Senate Majority Leader, and Hillary Rodham as President?
Thanks, at least the haven't infested my work place
Yeah! Yeah!!!! Damn those jerks for giving us conservatives on the Supreme Court and lower courts, for cutting our taxes, for strengthening our military and taking offensive action against terrorists trying to kill us, for protecting the unborn and promoting a culture of life.
Those bastards have betrayed this country!! They've played on our fears!!! 
These threads are like car wrecks. I just can't look away! :-D
thats the rumor in the big city.... not sure if thats what the numbers actually show or if its a scare tactic to get folks to campaign harder.... in any even, things do not look encouraging.... my count has gop down six to eight seats in the house at least.... but who knows.
 Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House |
 John Conyers, Jr, Chairman, House Judiciary Committee |
 Tom Lantos, Chairman, House International Relations Committee |
 David R. Obey, Chairman, House Committee on Appropriations |
 John Dingell, Chairman House Energy and Commerce Committee |
 Chaplain for the US House of Representatives?? |
 Charles Rangel, Chairman, House Ways & Means Committee |
 Jane Harman, Chairman, House Intelligence Committee |
 BARNEY FRANK, Chairman, House Financial Services Committee |
 Henry Waxman - House Government Reform Committee |
 Patrick Kennedy, Chairman House Entertainment Committee |
 Chairperson, House Committee on Conspiracies |
 Harry Reid, President pro Tempore of the Senate, 3rd line of succession. |
 Joseph Biden, Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Committee |
 RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee |
 Jay Rockefeller, Chairman, Senate Intelligence Committee |
 Robert C. Byrd, Chairman, Senate Appropriations Committee |
 John F. Kerry, Chairman US Senate Committee on Finance |
 Joe Liebermann, Chairman, Senate Homeland Security Committee |
 Chris Dodd, Chairman, Senate Rules and Administration Committee |
 Carl Levin, Chairman Senate Armed Services Committee |
 John McCain, some things will stay the same |
 Ted Kennedy, Chairman, Senate Committee on Immigration |
 President in Waiting. |
 First Husband. |
 Patrick Leahy, we’ll find him a job |
 Barbara Boxer, we’ll find her a job. |
 Senate Chaplain??? |
We're in the dark times but can't really believe it.
To me, I see two problems between GOP voters and the administration of GWB (his popularity does affect the outcome of 06, even if he is not running):
1. Iraq/GWOT: Take the gloves off, fight to win, stop undermining our troops (ie, Pendleton 8); and
2. Immigration: Close the borders, enforce the current laws, work on strengthening disencentives against illegals.
Is there time to do this between now and Nov 06?
And even if there were time for GWB and all GOPers running to change their tune - would the MSM allow any coverage of their position?
I have a baaaaad feeling about this. And if GOP does lose 30 seats, it won't just be bad for the GOP - it will be bad for all America.
No, no, not 6. 30!!!
Its no longer just the wealthy who dont answer their phones. What makes you think those who answer their phones are that different from those that do?
The pollsters must have some secret methods because they are still able to predict quite closely the actual results of the various contests.
"But losing might. And if that's what it takes, so be it."
Exactly.
I have once again come to believe what I believed in my youth.
Politicians as a whole are there for the money and power, and don't give a damn about their constituents.
I am becoming comfortably apathetic.
And elect the Democrats?
No real conservative will do that.
I am going to have to ask you to leave this thread, please. We do not need pesky facts getting in the way of a good emotional mosh pit. Thank you for not making a scene.
;-)
Can we quote you on that? We'll see in November, and I'll save this post...
I look at 20, maybe, I don't see alot of movement left or right. The commies in the Midwest haven't done all that well. I think at this time a Status Quo, to early.
"If GOP voters stay home while troops are fighting and dying, then they are not conservatives.
No conservative is un-American enough to throw away a vote that soldiers fought for and died for."
Let me rephrase your pitch....."If you don't vote GOP you are a terrorist". Do I have it correct, or do you wish to modify it?
This is an amusing variation of the "Better than Gore/Kerry" defense of big-government GOP policies.
Bump.
I agree with you that the 'RATs have plenty of problems on their plate too. I don't automatically believe that the GOP is going to lose control, but I do believe that is well within the realm of possibility
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