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Frightening internal polling (House GOP to lose 30 seats?)
RedState ^ | Jul 30th, 2006 | HoosierTeacher

Posted on 07/30/2006 2:06:41 PM PDT by rface

Rush Limbaugh announced on his show that the GOP house internal polling shows a circa 30 seat loss for 2006.

It is hard for me to write much on this subject, as internal polling is secretive and not generaly available to public scrutiny. But there are some thoughts for discussion here.

One, is Rush correct? I don't think Rush makes it up as he goes along. He is human, and can make errors (as can anybody talking solo for 15 hours a week). But I haven't known him to lie outright on a political matter ever. I believe Rush has reported what he has gleaned from a GOP member of congress or a staffer.

Two, is the information correct? Is it a leak, or a misinformation campaign? I guess I don't see much value in leaking incorrect data to Rush exagerating a potential house loss. So I tend to believe the leaker was being accurate.

Three, should Rush have reported this (and should I write about it)? No to the first part. Internal polling is not meant to be leaked or reported. Once millions of Rush listeners have the info, it is already public and so I offer it here for your analysis.

Four, implications? Internal polling isn't the "for public" polling that you get from groups like Zogby, Gallup, Rasmussen, etc. Internal polling is the hard core, scientific, no spin accurate stuff that the candidates and the parties get and is held close to their vests. Only the best of the best work directly for the parties and candidates. My point is that if the information Rush reported is accurate, there are dark times ahead.

Implications go beyond this too. With the recent failure of the GOP by raising the minimum wage and cutting (but enshrining) a major tax, and with no movement on issues like arctic and offshore drilling, the slow pace of federal court appointments, and unreal spending, the GOP is losing the base. Despite our war on terror and a robust economy, Americans see casualty numbers and gas prices.

Having just adjourned for a recess, I see little the house can do other than campaign localy in the near term. If we blow this election we have no one to blame other than ourselves (a moderate to liberal GOP senate and a spend happy house).

"Where have you gone Ronald Reagan, a nation turns it's lonely eyes to you".


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006polls; bushbasherswonderwhy; conservabotstoblame; election2006; electionconngress; elephanteatsownhead; geeiwonderwhy; predictions; timetolookinmirror; wearedoomed
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To: paul51

Problem is the GOP keep getting elected cause the dems are insane so they sit back and figure we must be doing something right and keep up with the wishy washy policies

Enough to drive me insane


221 posted on 07/30/2006 5:34:25 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Moonman62
That would explain why the GOP wants to buy votes with an increase in the minimum wage.

 I don't know. Among actual conservative folk, that might well lose a few votes, or at least make them feel not so bad about sitting the election out.

222 posted on 07/30/2006 5:34:42 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: rface
Fighting this War On Terror with politically correctness is what's hurting Bush and the republicans. We should be fighting to WIN the war. There's only one thing worse than accepting the democrat's cut-and-run. And that's stay with hands tied behind backs.

Which will Americans choose?

ELECTION 2006 LINKS

223 posted on 07/30/2006 5:35:05 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: rface

I imagine there's something to it.....and I don't like it


There is indeed something to it.........................


limbaugh, coulter and covuto all are paid based on their "market share"

Stirring up the "pot" gets them more attention and therefore increases their "value"

not to worry


224 posted on 07/30/2006 5:35:09 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: Mamzelle

they are losing me on Illegal immigration and the major sell out of this nation...maybe if they'd do their jobs, they might keep their job???


225 posted on 07/30/2006 5:35:38 PM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: rface

Coming down the stretch NOW the GOP worries about it. They've been warned, they've been begged, they've been pleaded with.

If they lose, they have nobody to blame but themselves. Listen to the people that put you in office or lose the elections.

Pretty simple concept if you ask me.


226 posted on 07/30/2006 5:36:58 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: MaineVoter2002; All

What makes you think we are fighting a pc war on terror?? The fact that we haven't nuked anyone yet??? The fact that this admin hasn't told anything in what is going on the war on terror. You Monday morning quarterbacks are funny....


227 posted on 07/30/2006 5:37:16 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: MaineVoter2002
We should be fighting to WIN the war.

Yeah!! What are those IDIOTS thinking liberating 50 million people and killing Zarqawi and 2/3 of Al Qaeda's leadership?!??!!

I nominate you for SecDef!!!

228 posted on 07/30/2006 5:37:44 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: KevinDavis
You Monday morning quarterbacks are funny

It's still the weekend to me

229 posted on 07/30/2006 5:39:02 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: rface
The Colorado GOP had firm control of both Houses until the 2004 election. During their last couple of years, the party leadership failed to address several pressing budgetary issues for the state and devolved into a gripe and fuss club over petty minutia. Sound familiar?

I think many voters got tired of their lack of leadership and put the Dems in power in 2004.

I will be surprised if we lose the Senate, but not shocked if the House goes down. People want leadership, not wimpy windbags who have no vision or principles.
230 posted on 07/30/2006 5:41:35 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Colorado: the original Red State.)
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To: uncbob

They keep getting elected because people keep voting for the lesser of two evils. Bad is better than worse. The problem is, if one keeps voting for bad, they eventually end up with worse.


231 posted on 07/30/2006 5:41:37 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Coop; All

Naw they prefer mushroom clouds and radioactive oil....


232 posted on 07/30/2006 5:44:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: madison10
Didn't buy my vote, I found it to be disgusting.

I did too. If only the GOP would have had the guts to tell people the awful truth about the minimum-wage. They'd GAIN more minority and low-income voters.

233 posted on 07/30/2006 5:46:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: KevinDavis
What makes you think we are fighting a pc war on terror?

Bush claiming that the Geneva Conventions Apply to Guantanamo Detainees for starters.

Tora Bora

Carrots to Iran

the list goes on

234 posted on 07/30/2006 5:47:26 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Coop

"ROTFLMAO!!! Yep, unless and until the GOP starts doing the right thing there. Then the only issue will be "X!!!" Or "Y!!!!" Whatever the GOP ain't doin' right, damnit!! :-D"

So far there is no danger in the GOP "doing the right thing" on gov't growth, so there will be little opportunity to prove you wrong.

When the voter can't tell the difference between a republican or a democrat, then the GOP should be concerned. However, they don't seem to understand why they appear to be in trouble with regard to retaining House seats.


235 posted on 07/30/2006 5:49:54 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Leatherneck_MT
If they lose, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Baloney. Don't sell yourself short. You'll share in the blame.

236 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:12 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: KevinDavis
The fact that this admin hasn't told anything in what is going on the war on terror.

And why would they have to. The leaks from the CIA to the terrorists via NYT continue and nothing's done about it.

237 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:33 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Uncle Vlad
Hey. it's exactly how Clinton got elected in '92.

Well, that and Ross Perot.

238 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: MaineVoter2002

I can assure you that one day will not make your claim any less ridiculous, Rummy.


239 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:58 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Semi Civil Servant

Wow, class of '98, but I've never seen you post before. And yet here you are. Amazing!! :-D


240 posted on 07/30/2006 5:52:08 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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