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WWII documentary may incur indecency fines
Reuters ^ | 07-27-06 | WestVirginiaRebel

Posted on 07/26/2006 11:54:02 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel

LOS ANGELES (Reuters)-The U.S. government's crackdown on media indecency could prevent World War Two veterans from sharing their stories in an upcoming TV documentary series by Ken Burns, the head of the Public Broadcasting Service said on Wednesday.

Noted filmaker Burns' highly anticipated seven-part series "The War" features salty language used by servicemen and others. If the explecitives make it to air, they could lead to crippling fines for the offencing stations as a result of a new law signed last month by President George W. Bush.

(Excerpt) Read more at today.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: censorship; fcc; fufcc; govwatch; kenburns; libertarians
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To: freepatriot32

"you know what i like. the fact that we have more freedom and a smaller less intrusive government under bush with a repub senate and congress then we did under clinton with a dem controlled congress and senate. yep it does my heart good to see it"

*hands you your sarcasm tag*

Here, you dropped this.


61 posted on 07/27/2006 5:48:05 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Is the show going to include stories about newly liberated French women showing their appreciation to our GI's?


62 posted on 07/27/2006 5:48:15 AM PDT by EricT. (SpecOps needs to paint the NYT building with a targeting laser.)
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To: Jimnorwellwarren

Those men who fought in WW2 (including GWB Sr) have more class than any suit in either Washington DC or Hollyweird.

That includes the President.

Bad Language or not.


63 posted on 07/27/2006 5:51:06 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Well, then they ought to sit down and listen to Jimmie Stewart or Audie Murphy or Glenn Ford or Eddie Arnold describe what they did so that 1st Graders can listen to it. If they were infantryman they no doubt squatted and s*&^ on the trail during patrols; we don't need a demonstration on prime time TV.


64 posted on 07/27/2006 5:57:54 AM PDT by Jimnorwellwarren
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To: Jimnorwellwarren

Don't let your 1st Graders watch it.


65 posted on 07/27/2006 5:58:59 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: balch3
exactly. They can tell the story without resorting to foul language. I for one am glad we have people in office who are finally standing up for morality and decencey.

Which is of course EXACTLY what the Founders wanted the Federal Government to be the keeper of: morality and decency.

Morality and decency are to flow from the people to the government, not from the government to the people.

66 posted on 07/27/2006 6:06:24 AM PDT by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

"I not so sure I want a bowdlerized version of World War II."

Exactly! War sucks. Men swear while risking their lives in the military. Sanitizing warfare does nobody any good. We need to know the reality of fighting for just causes.

Frankly, if I had children young enough not to have already been exposed to curse words, I would consider them too young to watch a documentary about warfare. If they were old enough to watch such a documentary, I would assume that those words were familiar to them from the schoolyard.

The nanny folks who think that everything on television should resemble a 1950s sitcom need to rethink their position. Sometimes, accurate representations of historical events are ugly.


67 posted on 07/27/2006 6:35:47 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: lawdude

" believe the word 'teets' is correct. Tits is a euphemism thereof."

Actually, "tits" is a regional pronunciation of "teats," and originated in England. It got its spelling from years of pronunciation.

Even today, if you ask people in various parts of the English speaking world to pronounce "teats," some will pronounce it as "teets" and others will pronounce it as "tits."


68 posted on 07/27/2006 6:38:50 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: lawdude

"If a soldier used the "F" word while being shelled, it would be disingenuous to change it.
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For some squeamish folks, it's better if they change the word. It makes what's happening a bit more palatable, I suppose.

I remember the debate here about "A Band of Brothers," an outstanding film that didn't mince words at all. Many people were shocked by that film. I mean, guys had their guts blown out on screen. Surely that never really happened, right?

Those who would censor the actual words of our brave soldiers are out of touch with reality. They don't like the fact that war is an ugly thing, and would prefer the John Wayne image of the soldier, triumphant in battle.

War should not be romanticized. Ever. To do that is to insult the brave men and women who have died in our military.


69 posted on 07/27/2006 6:42:13 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: RWR8189

I disagree. I am a believer in the free market and supply side economics, Thomas Sowell is my guru, but I do not believe it would work out that way with network television.

I admint this is just my opinion. I do not trust them to police themselves or even to have the market police it for them. Money is more important to them than moral prudence. Sure, there are people who would complain and boycott the advertisers, but I think we are reaching limits on that. It is the fatigue factor. People just give up fighting, even if they oppose it.


70 posted on 07/27/2006 7:11:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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71 posted on 07/27/2006 7:54:06 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
>>Regardless of the source, I think it could be argued that one man's defender of morality is another man's Christian Socialist Nannystater...<<

I'm certainly not in favor of a lot of the laws that are purely designed to regulate morality without a strong mandate.

But its not fair to call Christian conservatives who sincerely believe they are in the right "socialist." Many of the my fellow conservatives with whom I disagree about laws regarding personal freedom don't have a socialist bone in their bodies.

We should stick to criticisms that make sense.

72 posted on 07/27/2006 9:20:35 AM PDT by gondramB (“Named must your fear be before banish it you can.”)
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To: dirtbiker

LOL...
I agree with Redd Foxx!


73 posted on 07/27/2006 10:12:43 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Why is there still a PBS?


74 posted on 07/27/2006 10:19:22 AM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: 19th LA Inf
When I was a kid, cows and goats had "t*ts"...

Yes, and back then t*ts was spelled tits.
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75 posted on 07/27/2006 10:20:01 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: balch3; CounterCounterCulture
They can tell the story without resorting to foul language. I for one am glad we have people in office who are finally standing up for morality and decencey.


76 posted on 07/27/2006 10:46:38 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: DaGman

I think you're right!


77 posted on 07/27/2006 10:49:45 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
When I was a kid, cows and goats had "t*ts"... Yes, and back then t*ts was spelled tits.

I believe the correct spelling for what's on a farm animal was spelled "teats".

78 posted on 07/27/2006 4:34:02 PM PDT by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: Zhang Fei
"We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write f@#k on their airplanes because it's obscene!" ( Colonel Kurtz )

The fact that you would let your children watch graphic images of war but not expose them to what you deem an offensive word disturbs me. They're just words for F#$%'s sake.

79 posted on 07/27/2006 4:44:16 PM PDT by KurtZ (Think!......it ain't illegal yet.)
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To: dirtbiker

Well, I can always count on learning something from Free Republic. In my post I spelled it "teets" thinking this would leave no doubt about how the Aggie guy pronounced a word in a way I had never heard in my life before. Henceforth that will be my way too (for animals only, of course). LOL


80 posted on 07/27/2006 5:31:01 PM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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