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Verdict Reached in Andrea Yates Case (UPDATE: Not Guilty by reason of insanity)
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Posted on 07/26/2006 9:35:01 AM PDT by cajunman

HOUSTON -- Jurors reached a verdict in Andrea Yates' murder retrial Wednesday morning. The jury's decision will be announced at about 11:25 a.m. KPRC and Click2Houston will air the verdict live.

After deliberating nearly 11 hours, jurors returned for a third day Wednesday to determine if she was legally insane when she drowned her five children in the bathtub.

Before court ended Tuesday, the jury of six men and six women asked to review the state's definition of insanity: that someone, because of a severe mental illness, does not know a crime he is committing is wrong.

State District Judge Belinda Hill said jurors, who were sequestered for the second night, , could see the definition Wednesday morning.

Jurors have already deliberated longer than the nearly four hours it took a first jury, which convicted her in 2002. That conviction was overturned on appeal last year.

Yates, 42, has pleaded innocent by reason of insanity. She is charged in only three of the deaths, which is common in cases involving multiple slayings.

As court was to end Tuesday, jurors asked for one more hour to deliberate. But then the panel immediately passed another note rescinding that request. Hill quoted the note, which read, "We need some sleep," prompting laughs from those in the courtroom.

The jury earlier asked to review the videotape of Yates' July 2001 evaluation by Dr. Phillip Resnick, a forensic psychiatrist who testified for the defense that she did not know killing the children was wrong because she was trying to save them from hell.

Resnick told jurors that Yates was delusional and believed 6-month-old Mary, 2-year-old Luke, 3-year-old Paul, 5-year-old John and 7-year-old Noah would grow up to be criminals because she had ruined them.

Jurors later asked to review Yates' November 2001 videotaped evaluation by Dr. Park Dietz, the state's expert witness whose testimony led an appeals court to overturn Yates' 2002 capital murder conviction last year.

Dietz, a forensic psychiatrist, testified in her first trial that an episode of the television series "Law & Order" depicted a woman who was acquitted by reason of insanity after drowning her children. But no such episode existed. The judge barred attorneys in this trial from mentioning that issue.

On Tuesday, after jurors asked for the trial transcript involving defense attorney George Parnham's questioning of Dietz about the definition of obsessions, the judge brought the jury back into the courtroom.

The court reporter then read the brief transcript, in which Dietz said Yates "believed that Satan was at least present. She felt or sensed the presence." Dietz had testified that Yates' thoughts about harming her children were an obsession and a symptom of severe depression -- not psychosis.

Earlier Tuesday, jurors reviewed the slide presentation of the state's key expert witness, Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist who evaluated Yates in May. He testified that she did not kill her children to save them from hell as she claims, but because she was overwhelmed and felt inadequate as a mother.

Welner told jurors that although Yates was psychotic on the day of the June 2001 drownings, he found 60 examples of how she knew it was wrong to kill them.

If Yates is found innocent by reason of insanity, she will be committed to a state mental hospital, with periodic hearings before a judge to determine whether she should be released -- although by law, jurors are not allowed to be told that.

Yates will be sentenced to life in prison if convicted of capital murder.

A capital murder conviction in Texas carries either life in prison or the death penalty. Prosecutors could not seek death this time because the first trial's jurors sentenced her to life in prison, and authorities found no new evidence


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
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To: Howlin
And don't try to make ME the problem because I am "emotional" about it.

Your loss of a child does not have a single thing to do with this woman and her plight. That you can connect the two in any way displays irrationality. Your problem has nothing to do with justice.

261 posted on 07/26/2006 10:42:11 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Yes he took her to seek help ... but why did he keep planting his seed in this wretch when he HAD to have known that she was losing her grip on reality and sanity? It's not a case of husband bashing. I'm a husband and I don't like to be bashed. It's seeking the answer to what IMHO is a very relevant question here.


262 posted on 07/26/2006 10:42:20 AM PDT by GB
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To: katieanna

It's one of those things which was tragic in the lead up, tragic in the result, and remains tragic while everyone who ever was touched by what happened lives.


263 posted on 07/26/2006 10:42:47 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: discostu
Part of the problem with insanity is from the inside it looks perfectly normal, the more seriously whacked people don't know they're not normal.

I have had experience with it. One of my loved ones had an interesting reaction to a medication. However, in this case, this person went from 100% sane to 0% sane in the snap of a fingers. Andrea Yates did not go from being fully aware of her actions to having no awareness in 1 day; it took 5 years. She should've sought help before she reached that 0% point.

However, if as another poster has pointed out, she did seek treatment and was refused it, it's much harder to blame her.
264 posted on 07/26/2006 10:43:29 AM PDT by Seamoth (Kool-aid is the most addictive and destructive drug of them all.)
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To: kassie

Well, I'll just echo the statements of so many, someday he'll have to answer for his actions.


265 posted on 07/26/2006 10:43:36 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: Glenn
Your loss of a child does not have a single thing to do with this woman and her plight. That you can connect the two in any way displays irrationality

And that only proves you'll say anything to defend this child killer.

And one has to wonder why.

266 posted on 07/26/2006 10:43:40 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: GB
Again Rusty just said he was so proud of the jury for their verdict, it was a tremendous victory.
267 posted on 07/26/2006 10:43:46 AM PDT by kassie
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To: codercpc
Right. She will be under the court's ironclad jurisdiction. This is Texas. She isn't walking free anywhere, folks. But this verdict was the correct one even to a lot of us hard-core law & order types here in Texas. I think a lot of the "blood lust" on FR in this case stems from a lack of a more familiarity with the facts. They see "Woman Drowns Kids" and the ol' knee jerks in the prdeictable way.(Truth be told, if this had happened in Kansas, & I didn't know everything about that case that I know about the Yates case, I'd probably be one of 'em screaming bloody murder at this verdict & wondering what the hell the jury was thinking too.)But if we are to maintain even a pretense of being a fair & just society, we've got to be able to make distinctions about moral culpability. This woman was (& still is) so severely disabled by psychosis, there is no way on God's earth she had any way of understanding what she was doing.
268 posted on 07/26/2006 10:43:50 AM PDT by leilani
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To: yellowdoghunter
there were many things she could have done to help herself and her family.

Yes of course. She chose to kill her kids and then get herself taken care of. It was a incredibly selfish act.
269 posted on 07/26/2006 10:43:50 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: kassie

Ain't no winners here.


270 posted on 07/26/2006 10:44:05 AM PDT by GB
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To: GB
Ain't no winners here.

Well, defense lawyers who have a mom killing child case from now until eternity...
271 posted on 07/26/2006 10:44:58 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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it was a tremendous victory.

Those are Rusty's words.

272 posted on 07/26/2006 10:45:12 AM PDT by kassie
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To: pj_627

I had a similar experience postpartum. Many women do, but we don't do what she did.

I'll never forget when this story first came over the radio. I was rocking and nursing our third, just a newborn at the time, while the older two were running around the house. I was beginning to panic. And, at that moment, the story aired. All I could do was imagine the horror those children went through, and think, Could anyone just snap like that and not know what she's doing? Could I snap too? The whole way the story was presented made me afraid of myself, and I think other new mothers had the same experience.

But, then more info came out. This woman had plotted and planned. She did the deed systematically one at a time. She knew exactly what she was doing. She's no more insane than any other killer who commits mass murder all in one day.


273 posted on 07/26/2006 10:45:37 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: kassie

I repeat, he is not playing with a 52-card deck either.


274 posted on 07/26/2006 10:45:55 AM PDT by GB
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To: GB

I guess I'm just surprised at his support to Andrea.


275 posted on 07/26/2006 10:46:24 AM PDT by kassie
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To: Tired of Taxes

Nice personal story. We all have FEELINGS, even horrible ones. What separates good people from evil ones is ACTING on them. A lot of murders are commited because someone is feeling terrible angst. Should we open the prisons and let them all out?


276 posted on 07/26/2006 10:47:24 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Tired of Taxes

She was/is more than PPD. I've heard everything from bi-polar to schizoaffective. Plotting and planning aren't signs of sanity. Even the most paranoid schizophrenic can build a cathedral.


277 posted on 07/26/2006 10:47:32 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: All
http://www.chron.com/

Clickable timeline of the Yates case....
278 posted on 07/26/2006 10:47:43 AM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: Ace of Spades
Well then we should both be happy! After all, the Lord will come and take you away and you can leave the rest of us alone.

amen!

279 posted on 07/26/2006 10:48:10 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: kassie

Yeah really. I would think at the very least he would just remove himself from the situation. If he wanted to say something then just issue a press release from his lawyers.


280 posted on 07/26/2006 10:48:27 AM PDT by retrokitten
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