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American travels to France, is shocked to discover the French food service industry blows.
The Prometheus Institute ^ | 7/25/2006 | Thomas Hutchinson

Posted on 07/25/2006 6:43:06 AM PDT by tang0r

The freedoms we experience in America are so plentiful that they even include preserving the choice of whether or not we should tip the people who wait on us. When we go out to eat, we expect good service in order to have a good meal; and if we receive that good service, we provide a tip to show our appreciation. If we don’t get that service, and we have to wait more that 10 minutes for a refill, we can choose not to tip, thereby showing our disapproval with that particular waiter.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: foodservice; french; libertarian; tipping
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To: tang0r

White Castle.

'Nuff said.


21 posted on 07/25/2006 7:23:17 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: tang0r
French cuisine is world renowed. Next to Chinese, if you haven't eaten French food, you haven't experienced all the world has to offer.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

22 posted on 07/25/2006 7:25:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: elmer fudd; shaggy eel

I'm given to understand the same system is used in New Zealand.


23 posted on 07/25/2006 7:26:24 AM PDT by null and void (<----admits nothing, denies everything and makes counter accusations.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Agreed. Wonderful bread, and the best Italian food I've ever tasted (in the Latin Quarter).


24 posted on 07/25/2006 7:27:30 AM PDT by Theo ("Scientists" believe in both evolution and man-caused global warming. They're wrong in both cases.)
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To: MineralMan

That's what I love about Korean restaurants. They haven't "Americanized" like most Chinese (buffets) and Mexican restaurants. Ant the cool thing is, they don't have to. Yes, they have seaweed and way-too-fishy stuff just like the Japanese and authentic Chinese. But Koreans know how to eat meat. Real meat.

Give me bulgogi, or Chap Chae, or Gal-Bi, or BiBimBap any day.

And the service at my local Korean restaurant ALWAYS deserves a decent tip!


25 posted on 07/25/2006 7:33:26 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

French bakeries......nothing compares.

Oh puh-lease... The French were eating porridge until Catherine de Medici gave the French Courts a cook book. French cuisine is Northeren Italian.


26 posted on 07/25/2006 7:33:36 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: yobid
they can't even win the tour day france. Poor frenchie

And their french fries suck, too.
27 posted on 07/25/2006 7:35:34 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: 2banana

This guy has it all wrong. The 19.6% charge seen on every restaurant bill is the TVA (in English, VAT, or value added tax). It's basically a sales tax that goes to the government, just like sales taxes in the US. If the writer has in fact lived in France for a "prolonged amount of time," as he says, he sure isn't very observant, else he would've known this. You pay TVA on every purchase here, although the percentages differ for necessities, regular purchases and luxuries.

As a separate issue, service is always included in the menu prices.


28 posted on 07/25/2006 7:42:08 AM PDT by Minette
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To: tang0r

A year or so ago, the Los Angeles Times had an article about what
the average French-person thought about a current election in France.
Accompanying the article was a picture of a French family watching television.
Mom, Dad (and I'll not mention the baby as it has no choice) were...FAT!

Looked like the average American that has lost the war with cheese, Doritos
and Twinkies.


29 posted on 07/25/2006 7:44:31 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Absolutely correct on both points.
France is a beautiful place full of history, but I would prefer several other countries. Italy is full of history and great food. Also, the people are very friendly. Germany, Austria and Switzerland are great places to visit where the trains run on time and again the people are friendly (Germans can be rude when in public-but it is not personal, they are that way to all).
Second, socialism has infected the brains of many European countries, some more than others. The UK was saved somewhat by Margaret Thatcher, but France, Germany, Italy, Sweden and Spain all have a huge dominant governments that exert much control over the economy. Many French and German college graduates are coming to the US because they cannot find jobs.
30 posted on 07/25/2006 7:51:04 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Pompah

Some things never change - here's Henry Adams talking about his countrymen in Europe 125 years ago:

"Bored, patient, helpless; pathetically dependent on his wife and daughters; indulgent to excess; mostly a modest, decent, excellent, valuable citizen; the American was to be met at every railway station in Europe, carefully explaining to every listener that the happiest day of his life would be the day he should land on the pier at New York." (The Education of Henry Adams)


31 posted on 07/25/2006 7:51:04 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: kjo

In most German and Austrian bars, they keep tabs on how many beers you have had by marking with a pen the small protective circular mat that goes under your beer.


32 posted on 07/25/2006 7:53:37 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: MineralMan; tang0r
I also disagree--that is too broad a statement. French food in general is excellent, but you had better watch what you order, the French eat a lot of stuff that Americans would not dream of eating. My Daughter was in the region of France close to Spain and they actually had a dish that included Rat meat on the menu.
33 posted on 07/25/2006 7:56:19 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: ffusco
Oh puh-lease... The French were eating porridge until Catherine de Medici gave the French Courts a cook book. French cuisine is Northeren Italian.

Yes. And I've read it was actually the Greeks who taught all of Europe how to cook.

34 posted on 07/25/2006 8:00:17 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel. We're all Jews now.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I'd put the Portuguese up there with the Germans. Granted, My experience has been limited to Lisbon, Setubal and Terceira mostly but I've found that the Portuguese tend to wait tables very well when they know that we are American$.


35 posted on 07/25/2006 8:04:08 AM PDT by Jimnorwellwarren
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To: Warren_Piece

I'm a KimChi and rice fan myself; low fat and spicy. By the way, you left Kagogi off of your meat listing.


36 posted on 07/25/2006 8:06:51 AM PDT by Jimnorwellwarren
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To: elmer fudd

The more I see of the world, the more I think Japanese should run it.


37 posted on 07/25/2006 8:07:17 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

"My Daughter was in the region of France close to Spain and they actually had a dish that included Rat meat on the menu."

Tastes like rabbit, pretty much, or any other rodent meat. I've eaten cane rat grilled on a skewer in Thailand. Very tasty.


38 posted on 07/25/2006 8:09:39 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I was stationed in Germany for 8 years and I can agree with you on the service charge at German resturants. And, like you, I would always round up on payment. I always thought the service in German resturants was excellent, the beer wonderful, and I never had a bad meal in a German resturant. I had many that were similar to others, schnitzel and pomme fritz, but never a bad meal.
I had one bad experience with language in a French resturant. My wife and I were staying in a hotel in Normandy and were in the bar getting a drink. In front of use was an Englishman who ordered his drink in English. When I tried to order my drink in English with the same bartender he pretended he didn't speak English. So I ordered in German following by a choice comment to my wife in English on the quality of the service, after I got my drinks, of course. Peeved the barman off no end.


39 posted on 07/25/2006 8:10:14 AM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Warren_Piece

I'm a KimChi and rice fan myself; low fat and spicy. By the way, you left Kagogi off of your meat listing.


40 posted on 07/25/2006 8:10:38 AM PDT by Jimnorwellwarren
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