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We're Not Stopping Now, Say Defiant Israelis
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-24-2006 | Isambard Wilkinson - Francis Harris

Posted on 07/23/2006 6:20:40 PM PDT by blam

We're not stopping now, say defiant Israelis

By Isambard Wilkinson in Jerusalem and Francis Harris in Washington

(Filed: 24/07/2006)

Israel brushed aside mounting calls yesterday for a ceasefire in Lebanon. Its army made clear that it planned to keep up its assault for at least a week and had not ruled out a ground invasion.

Buoyed by support from Washington for rooting out Hizbollah rockets from southern Lebanon, the army treated parts of the border area as a free-fire zone. It hit at least two cars with rockets as they sought the relative safety of the city of Tyre.

Israeli soldiers prepare to cross the border to Lebanon

Condoleezza Rice, the American secretary of state, was setting out for the Middle East last night but aides said that calling a ceasefire was not on her agenda unless it involved the disarming of the Iranian-backed Hizbollah.

"The purpose is to maintain a sustainable ceasefire," said Josh Bolten, President George W Bush's chief of staff. "It is sustainable only if we get to the root problem, which is Hizbollah, a terrorist organisation." That uncompromising response will disappoint those at the United Nations and in Europe who believe that a ceasefire should be the primary aim.

Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, said he accepted proposals for an international force for southern Lebanon. But the broad powers he envisaged for it appeared to rule out any prospect of it ever taking shape.

"Israel is ready to see deployment of a force with military capabilities and combat experience made up of troops from European Union countries," he told Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German foreign minister.

But in addition to monitoring Lebanon's border with Israel, the force would have to control crossings between Syria and Lebanon. That would require some 20,000 troops and Lebanon would see such a mandate as tantamount to an occupation.

In Beirut, the UN's emergency relief co-ordinator, Jan Egeland, toured parts of the southern suburbs which have been devastated by air strikes and accused the Israelis of violating international humanitarian law.

"It is horrific," he said as he visited the Haret Hreik district. "I did not know it was block after block of houses."

Despite 11 days of bombardment, Hizbollah launched salvoes of rockets into northern Israel, killing two people in Haifa and wounding more than 30.

Lt Gen Dan Halutz, Israel's chief of staff, said his forces needed weeks to do their work. "I don't want to set a date," he said, "but we're trying to shorten the operation and still achieve our goals."

As senior diplomats from Britain, Germany and France arrived in Israel to try to coax it towards a ceasefire or at least restraint, Gen Halutz said: "The foreign ministers do not determine our time limit. The Israeli government does that."

In London, ministers insisted that there was no rift between the Foreign Office and No 10 after Kim Howells, a Foreign Office minister, speaking in Beirut, accused Israel of using disproportionate force and destroying Lebanon. He returned to the theme yesterday after visiting Haifa.

"I am very disturbed the more I hear about the extent of this campaign," he said. "At some stages there are 60 jets out there over the Mediteranean waiting to hit targets."

Tzipi Livni, the Israeli foreign minister, said she hoped that Mr Howells, having visited northern Israel, where some 2,000 missiles have struck, understood that the country "had a duty to defend its citizens".

America supports Israel's declared aim of forcing the implementation of UN resolution 1559, which calls for the disarming of Hizbollah and the deployment of the Lebanese army to southern Lebanon. It swept aside a Syrian offer of direct talks on the crisis.

John Bolton, the hawkish United States ambassador to the UN, said: "Syria does not need dialogue to know what to do; they need to lean on Hizbollah."

The Americans are hoping to use moderate Arab states such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt to convince Syria that it should cut its ties with Iran. Such a move would greatly weaken Hizbollah.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; defiant; eurotrash; eurowhine; hurrahforjohnbolton; israel; israelis; justsaynotoeuweenies; leftists; not; now; say; snivelingfrenchsnots; stopping; were
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1 posted on 07/23/2006 6:20:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The dynamic of the mideast is changing rapidly. The arabs realize that they may not be avoid punishment by talking their way out of it this time.

It just goes to show that the arab world doesn't respect diplomacy or cease fires. They respect force.


2 posted on 07/23/2006 6:24:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: cripplecreek

Iran needs to be taken out.


3 posted on 07/23/2006 6:26:47 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: blam

Haven't even dropped the bunker busters yet. Warm up the virgins ....


4 posted on 07/23/2006 6:29:41 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: blam

George Allen on Hannity and Colmes said Israel should fight on...what's the sense of a cease-fire if Hezbollah simply regroups? (A cease-fire allows the enemy time to rearm, and next time they're likely to have nukes.)


5 posted on 07/23/2006 6:29:55 PM PDT by hershey
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To: blam

Thank God they are not listening to the Back to 9/10 crowd.


6 posted on 07/23/2006 6:34:54 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender; cardinal4

Rush's strategery: you don't win wars through negotiation. And I think the UN is being exposed, finally, for the useless bunch of pinheads that it is. We haven't heard the last of The Honorable John Bolton.


7 posted on 07/23/2006 6:39:08 PM PDT by Ax ("Burn the Village to the Ground, Doo-dah, Doo-dah....")
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To: blam
Israel must defeat these hezzie nazis. The Lebanese Christians, Druze, and Sunni Muslims are depending on the sons of Zion. Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
8 posted on 07/23/2006 6:39:39 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: blam
"I am very disturbed the more I hear about the extent of this campaign," he said. "At some stages there are 60 jets out there over the Mediteranean waiting to hit targets."

This war is going to be over sooner than later, and the iranians will be left holding their numb nuts.

9 posted on 07/23/2006 6:40:15 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: blam
The Eurotrash whine and don't want to take responsibility. Typical Leftists. All they can do is condemn Israel even as they reject any positive solution that might settle a crisis that has them up in arms.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

10 posted on 07/23/2006 6:44:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: bmwcyle

I have a feeling that Syria is about to break from Iran. Assad is a fool but he isn't crazy and I suspect that he knows that his partner in Iran is nuts.


11 posted on 07/23/2006 6:49:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: vbmoneyspender
When exterminating rats, all the vermin need to be taken out, or else the infestation continues. Israel needs to act quickly before they scatter off to Syria, Yemen and Iran.
12 posted on 07/23/2006 6:50:26 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: blam
"Josh Bolten, Buhief of Staff"

Who's that??!?!?!?!

13 posted on 07/23/2006 6:55:35 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

This British reporter must be new. He's referring to John Bolton, the UN rep for the US:)


14 posted on 07/23/2006 6:58:15 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: blam

Go Israel. Kick a$$.


15 posted on 07/23/2006 7:00:55 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: blam
I'd like to hear Bush mimic B. Clinton by saying " I've never worked so hard in my presidency to bring this conflict to an end, but the other side just wouldn't let me get it done ...ahuh-huh-huh!"

.... followed by President Bush wiping a tear from his eye.

16 posted on 07/23/2006 7:01:59 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (No.... wire .... hangers!)
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To: cripplecreek

I think you are right, there is an awful lot of "stuff" going on behind the scenes, and you bet your bottom dollar that Condi would not be going overseas without some stuff in her back pocket. Ahmadenanutjob has gone off the deep end, and everyone is realizing that now.


17 posted on 07/23/2006 7:05:25 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: blam
May God protect all of the Israeli military and civilians from death and injury! I hope they keep going until they kill all of Hezbollah in the area, and when they're done with them, go after Hamas!
18 posted on 07/23/2006 7:13:28 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I.)
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To: Laverne

Syria is sweating right now. According to this thread and story they may be offering to turn over some Al Qeada folks for us. The closer Israel gets to Syria the more they'll sweat.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670933/posts


19 posted on 07/23/2006 7:22:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: bmwcyle

Well it certainly wont be us. Iran is far and away a different planet than Iraq is. Very mountainous. Besides..Iranians got themselves into this mess in 79. They need to get themselves out. We've had our Civil War. Now they need to have theirs. Otherwise we will be bailing their sorry asses out of similar messes for the rest of eternity.


20 posted on 07/23/2006 7:24:44 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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