Posted on 07/19/2006 11:14:14 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
WASHINGTON (AP) President Bush has issued the first veto of his presidency, rejecting a bill to expand federal research on stem cells obtained from embryos.
"None at all?
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Virtually none at all. The funds are available through private enterprise, and the research is going on in every major university.
What Bush did today is essentially symbolic. By not expanding federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, he's just preserving the status quo.
The research still goes on, as it has in the past. Embryos are still being used in that research. No effect.
Then again, perhaps it always is.....
As for the folks in wheelchairs, ASC will cure them long before ESC will.
An apple seed is not an apple tree. An embryo is not a human being until it is a fetus.
But we have a bunch of brainwashed fools who let their religion rule their lives. Pathetic.
Glad to see it.
Suppose we take a fertilized embryo, allow it to divide once, and then separate the two daughter cells. This is almost the same as what happens to produce identical twins. We implant one embryo, where it goes on to be born. We use the other embryo to produce embryonic stems cells. Have we destroyed a human life? If you think we have destroyed a human life, then explain why, since we have the same human being we would have had had we done nothing. If we have not destroyed a human life, then why are identical twins two human lives and not one?
"But of course the media will make like he's murdering innocent Parkinsons sufferers.
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Yes, they will. No question about it. This actually came very, very close to having a large enough majority in both houses to override Bush's veto, besides. You might want to look at the list of House and Senate Republicans who voted FOR the funding.
Just a couple more votes, and Bush's veto wouldn't have stood.
As I said, it's a symbolic move on Bush's part. It'll make his base happy with him. But, he's not running, so it has little effect. Check on your Senator and Congressperson. You might be surprised how they voted.
Well said.
Shrubbie, You're doin' a heck of a job!
P.S.: A zygote is not even a fetus, much less a human being.
A leader who understands that the meaning of "justice for all" includes the unborn.
Thank you, Mr. President.
It should also be pointed out that there have been MANY successful stem-call therapies produced and in operation -- but not a single one of the 70+ are EMBRYONIC stem-cell research. It has been more scientifically and morally justificable to deal with ADULT stem cells, where human life is not destroyed. I just talked recently with a young lady whose life has been saved by one of the products of ADULT stem cell research, and she agrees with the vast majority of Americans that EMBRYONIC stem cell research is evil.
Prove that scientifically.
Or is your man-centered religion getting in the way of the facts?
well said!!!!!
The goal was to not force taxpayers to support the ghoulish ESC research. Well, at least, not any more than we already do.
This will mean it's Bush's fault that Christopher Reeve won't stand up out of his wheelchair and walk again. Oh, wait a minute . . . .
It's an interesting thread that reveals the moral emptiness of the President's foes.
In otherwords, he behaved morally AND conservatively.
Detractors haven't a leg to stand on from a conservative vantage point. Not on ethical grounds. On science, their hopes do not match their returns. Nor on fiscally conservative principle. There is no excuse for the government to be spending money on research the private sector is already devoted to, on research that hasn't even the grounds of success to warrant the funding to begin with. Fume all they want...this was a solid coservative position. If they are at odds, they are at odds with conservatism NOT the President on THIS issue.
Perhaps, the only reason he did it was because he knew his veto is going to be overridden.
They isolated the embryonic stem cell not even 10 years ago. I'd hardly call the results to date a failure.
I live in OH and we have two RINO Senators - I doubt I'll be surprised. :)
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