Children's Ideas About Fairness May Depend On Race

Medical News Today ^ | 16 Jul 2006

[NewRomeTacitus]

I'm sure many parents are worried about the anomaly of their children adopting ghetto mannerisms, dress and music "tastes". While kids have always sought out ways to annoy their parents this trend toward rejecting their entire heritage outright must be extremely horrifying.

I see it all the time at the carwashes I maintain - young guys pulling in in pickups with rap music blaring and crappy attitudes to match, usually disrespecting our property by littering (despite our numerous trash receptacles) and throwing our equipment around as if other people wouldn't want to use the space after them. I enjoy kicking them out while telling them why...which often finds them calling me a "honkey" or a Klansman. I should film them so I can send the evidence of their assholery to their own progeny.

[Arrowhead1952]

This study suggests there may be a developmental window of opportunity for intervention in the early years of elementary school, a time when children's moral reasoning is strongly tied to principles of equality.

Excuse me, but my BS meter is pegging. Children learn by what adults around them do, if it's using foul language, discrimination, even driving skills. It's the "Monkey see - monkey do" that influences children.

A kid will not learn this garbage unless someone teaches them that principle. The same holds true for many other things and at all ages while they are growing up and learning.

[MiHeat]

More importantly are the evolutionary predisposition to racism/culturism as a means of group/tribe survival. You don't trust folks that don't look like you and enhance your chance of survival and reproduction. True 50,000 yrs ago and true today.

You can't overcome through preschool indoctrination that which the laws of nature built into the organism through natural selection.

So what to do? Understand the root cause and deal with the consequences.

[ExpatGator]

First we must, as individuals and groups, judge cultures. I personally believe that western culture is the one that provides for the most individual, economic, and social freedoms and the most stability. I reject other cultures as primitive and self-defeating, and will continue to struggle in the defense of the superior culture.

What to do? Defeat slave/collective cultures when they threaten Western Culture. I am a culturist.

[chesley]

So, as I see it, nobody thought of giving each artist the money that his/her/its art sold for?

What a concept!

[NewRomeTacitus]

You can't overcome through preschool indoctrination that which the laws of nature built into the organism through natural selection.

That's definitely true but it still leaves the battle between indoctrinators tenured through the school system opposing what wiser parental tutelage grants them. Children learn at an ever-decreasing rate as they get older (solidification of values?) so those not gifted with genius must be put on a solid path toward good citizenship early on instead of the path toward anarchy that most modern educators want to inculcate.

[scrabblehack]

With the stories, about one-third of the children saw pictures in which the oldest character was black, one-third saw pictures with a productive black character and one-third saw pictures with a needy black character. In each case, the other two characters were white.

Fourth graders' responses, however, showed children considered the characters' race. For example, they gave a greater share of the money to white needy characters than black needy characters, while black productive characters received greater shares than white productive characters.

While not mathematically impossible, the results do seem somewhat inconsistent. One possibility follows. Conclusion: If you're white and old, it's best to be surrounded by needy blacks and productive whites. ;)

Black Needy .3

White Old .4

White Productive .3

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White Needy .5

Black Old .2

White Productive .3

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White Needy .5

White Old .0

Black Productive .5

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The fundamental premise stinks.

The booty to be distributed isn't earned, it's CHARITY.

The racist premise of the creators of this study is that black people can't earn things, they can only depend upon charity.

[Question_Assumptions]

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[Arrowhead1952]

You know what really make me mad about this type of "article" is, that I grew up not knowing what "racism" even was in our neighborhood. We had blacks, whites, Mexicans and Indians working together to HELP each other in times of need.

If there was a farmer needing help getting hay into a barn before a storm, we all worked together to get that done before the storms hit.

On example was Indian Joe. He was one of the last Native Americans in our community. Believe me, nobody messed with Indian Joe. That Indian was about 5' 5" / 220 or 230 and had no problem lifting a 55 gallon barrel full of oil or fuel. If there was a fight, you wanted to have him on YOUR side.

[scrabblehack]

You may have noticed that my example data was racially unbiased. The expected return to the black artists was 1/3 of the total.

I'd like to know how much of the difference is actually bias.

[turnrightnow]

[It's the "Monkey see - monkey do"]

Oh man! I'm surprised that the "monkey" reference didn't send the "racist meter" pegging! :}

[Riverman94610]

I've watched Fourth Graders at play and they are relatively free of racial separation but by junior high they seem to break off along ethnic lines and this practice tends to continue through college due to PC groupthink and identity politics.
After college you see much of that peer fascism evaporate and by mid adulthood most folks with any sense of openess have discarded the race chauvinism of their youth and mix frequently in social situations.

[Razz Barry]

Research shows that many adults make decisions about hiring, healthcare benefits, etc. that are biased against African Americans even while believing that all people should be treated equally, notes lead author Ann V. McGillicuddy-DeLisi, Ph.D., the Marshall R. Metzgar Professor of Psychology. "Nevertheless, under some circumstances adults discriminate even when there is no racially based reason for their behavior." This behavior is not traditional hostile racism, she says, but reveals a subtle racial bias known as "modern racism."

I just don't understand that. What is a "racially based reason"?

[Arrowhead1952]

I haven't signed on for a couple of days, and I should have used another example. Just like a baby fawn learning everything from its mother.