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7/15 Middle East Live Thread
7/14 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/16/06 | Various

Posted on 07/15/2006 5:35:46 AM PDT by Solson

I thought this could be a new thread for today. BurbankKarl's thread did well yesterday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; rebelyell2; ww3; wwiii
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To: theophilusscribe
"Israel killed at least 32 civilians on Saturday, including 15 children, in air strikes meant to punish Lebanon for letting Hizbollah ..."

Classic headline...

521 posted on 07/15/2006 10:45:54 AM PDT by sofaman ("Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt)
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To: Peach

I get the impression these people are much more savy than we give them credit for. The posts on the blog reveal they are very aware that they are being manipulated by Iran and Syria and one even made note that Hezbulla was fleeing under cover of civilian convoys leaving the city and innocent people were dying because of these cowards (the blogs terms for them)..


522 posted on 07/15/2006 10:46:03 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SE Mom

Not yet, waiting. The first reports are always wrong.


523 posted on 07/15/2006 10:46:14 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? Dubbed Bushbot 2 by Bushbot 1 :)>)
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To: ohioWfan

they have been saying for a couple of days that they planned to send in the Marines to take them to Cyprus


524 posted on 07/15/2006 10:46:19 AM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: hershey

Zogby is an a$$ as far as I'm concerned.


525 posted on 07/15/2006 10:46:38 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Israel accuses Iranian guards of helping Hezbollah

Hezbollah guerrillas who are bombarding Israel with missiles are being helped by members of Iran’s revolutionary guards, Israel said tonight.

Israel also warned the terror group has Iranian missiles that could hit Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, major Israeli cities that sit up to 124 miles from the Lebanese border.

In almost four days of fighting, Hezbollah has fired longer range rockets that have hit Tiberias – a resort city on the Sea of Galilee, where tradition says Jesus performed some of his best-known miracles – and Israel’s third-largest city, Haifa, both about 25 miles from the border.

In total, Hezbollah has fired more than 350 rockets at Israel since fighting erupted on Wednesday, the army said. But Hezbollah has so far refrained from using the approximately 20 longer-range rockets it has at its disposal, a move that would likely broaden the scope of fighting to include Syria, and possibly even Iran.

“They might attack Tel Aviv with their long-range rockets. This is in the (military’s) assessment,” a senior Israeli intelligence said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information. It is unclear why Hezbollah had not yet used the longer-range rockets, he said.

In a meeting of police, rescue and municipal officials in Tel Aviv on Friday, it was decided to increase the readiness of the rescue services due to the possibility that Hezbollah could attack the city, officials said. Ambulance drivers were instructed to be near their vehicles at all times, they added.

Israeli officials have repeatedly accused Syria and Iran of assisting Hezbollah and other militant groups, including Hamas. Military officials said Iranian troops were directly involved in an attack late Friday on an Israeli warship that killed four soldiers.

About 100 Iranian soldiers are in Lebanon and helped fire the Iranian-made, radar-guided C-802 missile at the ship that was cruising off the coast of Lebanon when it was hit, the official said. The troops involved in firing the missiles are from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, the official added.

The missile has a range of approximately 100 kilometres, or 60 miles.

Another Hezbollah missile also hit and sank a nearby civilian merchant ship at around the same time, Twelve Egyptian sailors were on board the Cambodian merchant ship and were rescued from the water by other passing ships.

The current round of Hezbollah-Israeli fighting erupted Wednesday after the guerrillas attacked an Israeli military patrol, killing eight soldiers and capturing two others. Since then, more than 105 Lebanese, most of them civilians, and four Israeli civilians have been killed.

Israel has bombarded Lebanon’s airport and main roads in the most intensive offensive against the country in 24 years, while Hezbollah has fired an almost non-stop barrage of rockets at northern Israeli towns and cities.

In Haifa on Saturday, the Israeli army deployed a Patriot missile battery, the army said. The missile defence system cannot destroy Katyusha rockets – hundreds of which have been fired at Israel from Lebanon in recent days – but could protect against surface-to-surface missiles, such as those possessed by Syria, the army said.

The deployment of the US-made defence system appeared to signify that Israel was bracing for the possibility that fighting could spread to Syria.

On Saturday, Hezbollah rockets hit Tiberias three times, the first attack on the city since the 1973 Mideast war. At least two houses were directly hit, but only a few light injuries were reported, medics said.

Earlier today it was reported that at least 12 Lebanese villagers, including women and children, were killed in what appeared to be an Israeli airstrike on a convoy of vehicles fleeing a village near the border with Israel in southern Lebanon, a witness said.

The Lebanese convoy was leaving the border village of Marwaheen, when it was attacked. An Associated Press photographer said he counted 12 bodies in two cars that were destroyed by the attack shortly after midday (10am Irish time).

Several hours earlier, Israeli forces across the border told villagers by loudspeaker to leave the area or else the village would be destroyed. They did not give a reason for the ultimatum.

526 posted on 07/15/2006 10:46:48 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: RDTF

I would think Beirut would have to be secured first by Israelis.


527 posted on 07/15/2006 10:47:06 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Teufelhunde

This was debunked by Israel:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/738315.html

Responding to a report in a pan-Arab daily newspaper that Israel presented Damascus with an ultimatum, an Israel Defense Forces officer said Saturday that targeting Syria is currently not on Israel's agenda.

"We're not a gang that shoots in every direction," the officer said. "It won't be right to bring Syria into the campaign."


528 posted on 07/15/2006 10:47:11 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: AdmSmith

Iran has a bunch of those old cruise missiles, slow, short ranged, and enough to easily overwhelm a single Aegis platform, based on published pre Block III/IV specs anyway.

I hope this is all Iran has to pay for.


529 posted on 07/15/2006 10:47:17 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: RDTF

Thanks, RDTF. I had missed that previously.


530 posted on 07/15/2006 10:47:36 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: sofaman
I am totally indifferent to the plight of the Lebanese. They have tolerated Hezbollah and allowed them to become a political party in Lebanon.

I think it was yesterday that they were monitoring Hezbollah television. Now why would they have a television station in Lebanon unless at least some of the Lebanese people were watching it?

I think that maybe more people in Lebanon support Hezbollah than th MSM want us to believe.

531 posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:18 AM PDT by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: Lil Flower

Previous reports were that it was a rumor from some civilian who overheard it from some unnamed person. Never confirmed by anyone on either side.


532 posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:19 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Lil Flower; prairiebreeze
Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said Friday that Iraqis would not "sit by with folded hands" while Israel struck at Lebanon

Mr. Potatohead needs to wind up on the wrong side of the grass. Immediately, if not before.

533 posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:30 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Liberals aren't having so much fun now that the rabbit has the gun. --Ann Coulter)
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To: theophilusscribe
CAIRO, Egypt - Foreign ministers of 18 Arab countries passed a unanimous resolution Saturday calling on the U.N. Security Council to intervene to stop escalating Mideast fighting. "The Middle East peace process has failed. The whole process should now be sent back to the Security Council for a complete overhaul," said Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa. "We are going to the Security Council — this is a unanimous position — to discuss the whole situation from scratch," he said. "If the Security Council fails, nobody knows what might happen next," he added, pronouncing the whole Mideast peace process "dead."

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These Arab league fellows are only 40 years late.

534 posted on 07/15/2006 10:48:51 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I saw some interesting interviews with some Palestenians in Gaza this morning and they said they were sick of fighting and only wanted peace and to live side by side with Israel with both countries in peace. I was actually very suprised at the comments. Wonder if they realize what a huge mistake they made electing Hamas?


535 posted on 07/15/2006 10:49:31 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: All
20:39 Spanish PM says Mideast fighting could fuel radical Islam (AP)

20:36 Lebanese PM Siniora: After ceasefire, Lebanon`s army will deploy in south (Ch. 10)

536 posted on 07/15/2006 10:49:53 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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Iran top national security official heads to Saudi
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=44b9bfceed0301a3&ei=wim5RJWFK67caa_XtK0O&url=http%3A//www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp%3FNewsCode%3D44353%26NewsKind%3DCurrent%2520Affairs&cid=0
IranMania News, Iran - 14 minutes ago
... A Saudi official this week indirectly accused Hezbollah of provoking Israel's onslaught on Lebanon, accusing certain elements of "adventurism" that put all ...

$78 a barrel due to ME situation: Dhaka concerned over continued ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/8-0&fp=44b9bb0cd06aeff6&ei=_Cm5RPeLMrCGaZG2lK4E&url=http%3A//nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_29174.shtml&cid=0
The New Nation, Bangladesh - 12 minutes ago
... Although neither Israel nor Lebanon are oil producers, the violence has increased tensions in the Middle East, a region which accounts for about a quarter of

Iran denies supplying rocket that hit ship
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/9-0&fp=44b94d4b41625504&ei=LSq5RILrAabSaJj75J0O&url=http%3A//english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FCBD9700-D204-44AA-9719-6B2AB11C26C4.htm&cid=0
Aljazeera.net, Qatar - 14 minutes ago
Israel claims that the guided missile that hit one of their naval warships, killing at least one sailor, was Iranian-made. The missile ...

Israel pounds Lebanon as fears mount of regional war
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/7-0&fp=44b94d4b41625504&ei=LSq5RILrAabSaJj75J0O&url=http%3A//www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/AfpNews/200607160130061152984606.03/afp&cid=0
New Straits Times, Malaysia - 13 minutes ago
Israel has shown no sign of reining in its relentless bombardment of Lebanon, killing 18 people in an air strike on a convoy of fleeing families and destroying ...

Arab League Chief: Peace Process 'Dead'
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/8-0&fp=44b9b8c41c0b562e&ei=aCq5RLzcBav8aI-JhK4E&url=http%3A//www.wral.com/apworldnews/9523155/detail.html&cid=0
WRAL.com, NC - 12 minutes ago
... Foreign ministers of 18 Arab countries held an emergency summit over Israel's expanding assault on Lebanon the worst Israeli attack on its neighbor in 24 years ...

Middle East must embrace for bigger war
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/2-0&fp=44b9b8c41c0b562e&ei=aCq5RLzcBav8aI-JhK4E&url=http%3A//nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_29178.shtml&cid=0
The New Nation, Bangladesh - 10 minutes ago
Israel has intensified air attacks on Lebanon and announced that the attacks would continue. Simultaneously Israeli army has continued ...
537 posted on 07/15/2006 10:50:46 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: TexKat

Sometimes I think that those in our generation just don't know or have the will to make war like those of the WWII era, Patton,etc.


538 posted on 07/15/2006 10:51:26 AM PDT by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: BunnySlippers
I believe that, based on the stats I've heard before.

Unfortunately, I don't have them at hand.

It's obviously a different kind of danger in a war.......including the fact that you volunteer for it, and that you're fighting for freedom and security...... but in terms of deaths, it's more dangerous in parts of the U.S........and I would guess both NO and DC, as well as LA and probably Chicago and NYC, would be among them.

539 posted on 07/15/2006 10:51:53 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: sissyjane

Let's send some to the Middle East, LOL!


540 posted on 07/15/2006 10:52:14 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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