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Colmes 'Agnostic' as to Whether Bush Brought Down WTC?
Hannity & Colmes/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 07/12/2006 8:09:50 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: DakotaRed
Thanks for the links. I tend to to read articles written by people named Cinnamon, but I made an exception.

Three steel framed skyscrapers in the history of the world have collapsed entirely because of fire. You know which three...

On almost any other subject, people can have a rational discussion without name-calling or pseudo-psychoanalysis.
121 posted on 07/14/2006 10:51:38 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: napscoordinator

Susan Estrich?


122 posted on 07/14/2006 11:00:05 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

Susan Estrich?



Interesting. But Sean would probably go even more crazy. lol.


123 posted on 07/14/2006 11:39:58 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

She seems a bit more civilized than she used to be. I really cannot see her taking the line that she doesn't know whether Bush brought down the Twin Towers (and by the way struck the Pentagon) or not. Not that she would have said those words in the past, but she just seemed more out of control before. LOL


124 posted on 07/14/2006 12:00:39 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Prodn2000

The second article, not Cinnamon's, is even better. Many witnesses saw and have testified to seeing the buildings buckling and compressing minutes prior to the collapse. Explosives don't operate slowly.

Don't hold the name someone's parents gave them against them, just not right, I think.


125 posted on 07/14/2006 12:49:38 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: DakotaRed
I was just making a joke about Cinnamon.

Many witnesses also said they saw flashes of light, indicative of explosives, inside the buildings just before they came down.
126 posted on 07/14/2006 1:29:06 PM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is how the left covers for Clinton enabling terrorists just so he could keep himself from being investigated.


127 posted on 07/14/2006 1:31:36 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Prodn2000

Now who is ignoring facts?

Did they see the flashes minutes before the collapse? Do you not realize that a collapsing building, with electricty and massive steel beams, furniture and desks burning and starting to sag would most likely flash as well?

If explosives, witnesses wouldn't have reported seeing the building bowing and such minutes before it finally collapsed.

Like I said, there are just too many holes to believe any of the conspiracy theories when visual and common sense says otherwise.


128 posted on 07/14/2006 5:48:24 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: DakotaRed
My point was that witnesses made both claims.

Common sense, to me, says low oxygen skyscraper fires do not cause buildings to fall down. Especially a building that was not hit by an airplane.

Common sense, to me, says two different planes hit two different buildings in two different places on the buildings, yet the same effect resulted?
129 posted on 07/15/2006 1:02:33 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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To: Prodn2000

"Would it be crazy to suggest that al Qaeda had a back-up plan to make sure that the towers fell?"

I often wondered about this. I've read a lot of the "conspiracy" sites and such.

How hard would it have been for the terrorists to a) plant bombs before the strike or b) dress as first responders and plant bombs during the confusion -- it's not like they would be ones worried about getting out. With everyone focused on rescue I think it may have been rather easy with the right "props" to get in there...

Planting the bombs to make sure they fell would also be "good" from the terrorists point of view as they would not only get the civilians, but first responders as well thereby causing more panic, confusion, and pain. It's not like they didn't know what to do in regards to planting bombs in the lower levels of the WTC, as they did it before.

[NOTE: I hate that any divergent thinking is automatically labeled a conspiracy theory. Granted, some are pretty dang far-fetched, but others leave one with serious questions and I don't think it does anyone any good to dismiss some of the research that's been done as pure BS just because it's not EXACTLY what the authorities think happened.]


130 posted on 07/15/2006 1:19:25 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com -- NEW URL for my blog...)
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To: DakotaRed

LOL, I guess I haven't seen ALL the sites. Thanks for that link Dakota. I have to admit from my vantage point that day (TV) it looked an awful lot like a "controlled demolition" as far as the angle I saw -- but I was thinking the terrorists were just assuring maximum damage. But, I will readily admit I wasn't there and TV cameras can distort a lot.


131 posted on 07/15/2006 1:26:06 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com -- NEW URL for my blog...)
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To: LibertyRocks
You made some great points. I appreciate it.

al Qaeda wanted the towers knocked down. To the best of my knowledge, before Sept. 11, nobody had ever attempted to knock down a building with a commercial airliner. Maybe they doubted that the crash alone would be enough, so they had a back-up plan.

We laugh and question government reports every single day. Yet, the official government reports of Sept. 11, to some (most) are holier then the Bible.
132 posted on 07/15/2006 1:31:34 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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