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No scientific basis for 'born gay' theory. (DUH!)
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 07/08/2006 | David Clarke Pruden

Posted on 07/12/2006 2:07:22 PM PDT by carlo3b

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BORN TO CHOOSE
1 posted on 07/12/2006 2:07:29 PM PDT by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b
Well I guess this is finally put to rest.. (eyes rolling) :)
2 posted on 07/12/2006 2:09:27 PM PDT by carlo3b ("Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
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While I agree that there isn't a gay gene. I wonder what causes people to be sexually attracted to the same sex? My brother in law tells me that he's never had any feelings of sexual attraction to women but has to men since he was in middle school. I'm sure more psychological study of this phenomena will reveal more as time goes on.


3 posted on 07/12/2006 2:10:37 PM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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I know people who were born gay, as in Helen Keller would know they are gay. Maybe science can't prove this but I believe some people are just born gay.


4 posted on 07/12/2006 2:16:23 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: Mazda3Fan

Agreed. There clearly isn't a gay gene -- if there were, evolution would have weeded it out -- but to call homosexuality a choice is to miss the point as well. It's certainly a pervision, and I believe it's wrong. But that doesn't mean someone woke up one day and decided to be attracted to men. Something happened in their lives to cause them to be confused about their sexual identity. We won't make any headway by telling gays simply to choose differently; we have to adjust the cultural circumstances that make such confusion commonplace.


5 posted on 07/12/2006 2:16:28 PM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: carlo3b

I can't think of one good reason why one man would choose to wake up in the morning with his arms wrapped around another man. (all dumb jokes aside)


6 posted on 07/12/2006 2:16:35 PM PDT by misterrob
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That sure is a DUH ALERT!

Could someone send this to Bush and other gay sympathizers? Oh yeah, Bush is against "gay marriage" but loves to hire them to do jobs NORMAL people are groveling around to do.


7 posted on 07/12/2006 2:17:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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Absolutely no proof of this. Twin studies actually show that there is no Gay gene.


8 posted on 07/12/2006 2:17:29 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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"Maybe science can't prove this but I believe some people are just born gay."

That statement alone proves it to be untrue.


9 posted on 07/12/2006 2:18:15 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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God allows all sorts of mysteries and challenges to unfold before our eyes. Its how we deal with those mysteries and challenges that is what He is looking at. Gay Pride, somehow, doesn't strike me as the correct response to the challenge of misorientated sexual preference.


10 posted on 07/12/2006 2:18:40 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Mazda3Fan
I'm sure more psychological study of this phenomena will reveal more as time goes on.

Except that it's been removed as a class of "mental illness" so it is no longer being studied except on a genetic level.

11 posted on 07/12/2006 2:21:39 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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Yes, we are all born the same and then during life we choose what we want to be. White-black, conservative-liberal, male-female, gay-straight.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 2:22:19 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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I have for as long as I could remember, been attracted to sky diving.. My better judgment intercedes whenever I ponder too long on the consequences. I seldom allowed myself to obsess with the thought that it might be a great idea to jump out of too many planes..

We were all born with the ability to think and choose, my parents and adult support groups always furnished me with enough information to make sound judgments about dangerous behaviors.. The gay lifestyle is generally far more dangerous than parachuting..

Parents never let your child ponder on this subject without your sound warning against homosexuality..

13 posted on 07/12/2006 2:23:15 PM PDT by carlo3b ("Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
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More psychological study won't help.The Psychologists have already decided that they don't want to hurt the feelings of gay people by labeling them as anything worse than a 'variation on normal'. I believe that men are born gay but I believe that it is a personality disorder. I also think that some men have a woman induced trauma (bad break-up or divorce, etc.)and decide that another man might not hurt them as easily. Pure speculation. I'm not in the field of Psychology.


14 posted on 07/12/2006 2:23:24 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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As a born-again, heterosexual married to the same woman for 37 years next month, I have a question.

Having been active in church for many years, I have found myself in situations where I have had to counsel homosexual men. What do you say when they sit there, with tears rolling down their cheeks and say: "I can remember being attracted to boys since I was 5 years old." Or, when they say: "I did not choose to be this way. Give me a pill to make me straight and I'll take it."

Having always been taught that no one is born homosexual, I've never really known how to "adequately" respond to those types of statements.

Anybody got a clue?


15 posted on 07/12/2006 2:25:03 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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Yes, we are all born the same and then during life we choose what we want to be. White-black, conservative-liberal, male-female, gay-straight.

Wow. Propaganda really works for you. Bought it all. You lumped in genetics with a choice and a "not likely" quite nicely.

16 posted on 07/12/2006 2:25:57 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: nikos1121

I do know about the twin studies. And you're right. When one identical twin is gay, less than half the time will the second identical twin be gay.


17 posted on 07/12/2006 2:26:37 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Bigh4u2

I find it hard to believe that anyone would choose to be gay. Why would anyone choose a lifestyle which is clearly outside of the mainstream and clearly unnatural, if not for being born that way? I don't understand it but some people have different urges.


18 posted on 07/12/2006 2:27:20 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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" Oh yeah, Bush is against "gay marriage" but loves to hire them to do jobs NORMAL people are groveling around to do"

I was going to suggest Bush hires based on ability rather than who people have sex with. But the Harriet Meyers (sp?) nomination clearly blew that theme.


19 posted on 07/12/2006 2:31:52 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
When I was a kid, everyone of any notoriety was a smoker.. Avoiding cigarette smoking was harder to avoid than any bad behavior I was confronted with, but I did.. I thought it was a real sick behavior..

Pondering on my next door neighbor's son wasn't in my basket, but if it had been, I would have thought it was a sick behavior, and would have avoided the thoughts.. Get it!

20 posted on 07/12/2006 2:33:25 PM PDT by carlo3b ("Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
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