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BORN TO CHOOSE
1 posted on 07/12/2006 2:07:29 PM PDT by carlo3b
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Well I guess this is finally put to rest.. (eyes rolling) :)
2 posted on 07/12/2006 2:09:27 PM PDT by carlo3b ("Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
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While I agree that there isn't a gay gene. I wonder what causes people to be sexually attracted to the same sex? My brother in law tells me that he's never had any feelings of sexual attraction to women but has to men since he was in middle school. I'm sure more psychological study of this phenomena will reveal more as time goes on.


3 posted on 07/12/2006 2:10:37 PM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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I know people who were born gay, as in Helen Keller would know they are gay. Maybe science can't prove this but I believe some people are just born gay.


4 posted on 07/12/2006 2:16:23 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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I can't think of one good reason why one man would choose to wake up in the morning with his arms wrapped around another man. (all dumb jokes aside)


6 posted on 07/12/2006 2:16:35 PM PDT by misterrob
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That sure is a DUH ALERT!

Could someone send this to Bush and other gay sympathizers? Oh yeah, Bush is against "gay marriage" but loves to hire them to do jobs NORMAL people are groveling around to do.


7 posted on 07/12/2006 2:17:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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God allows all sorts of mysteries and challenges to unfold before our eyes. Its how we deal with those mysteries and challenges that is what He is looking at. Gay Pride, somehow, doesn't strike me as the correct response to the challenge of misorientated sexual preference.


10 posted on 07/12/2006 2:18:40 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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Yes, we are all born the same and then during life we choose what we want to be. White-black, conservative-liberal, male-female, gay-straight.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 2:22:19 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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As a born-again, heterosexual married to the same woman for 37 years next month, I have a question.

Having been active in church for many years, I have found myself in situations where I have had to counsel homosexual men. What do you say when they sit there, with tears rolling down their cheeks and say: "I can remember being attracted to boys since I was 5 years old." Or, when they say: "I did not choose to be this way. Give me a pill to make me straight and I'll take it."

Having always been taught that no one is born homosexual, I've never really known how to "adequately" respond to those types of statements.

Anybody got a clue?


15 posted on 07/12/2006 2:25:03 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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On the Liberal Blogs, they are still trying to justify their search for a "I was born a jerk" gene.


31 posted on 07/12/2006 2:47:04 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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His study of 200 gay men and lesbian women who had undergone re-orientation therapy concluded: 44 percent of the women and 66 percent of the men had arrived at what he called "good heterosexual functioning" and 89 percent of the men and 95 percent of the women reported that they were bothered slightly or not at all by unwanted homosexual feelings.

But this is impossible! You can't stop being homosexual. I know, because they say so!

35 posted on 07/12/2006 2:56:43 PM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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I am a recovering alcoholic. There has been statements put forth that some people are born with an inclination to be addicted. Others say it's a learned behaviour.

It makes not one whit of difference to me. Since July 7th. 1981, I have chosen not to drink an alcoholic beverage.

It is my choice to not drink.

37 posted on 07/12/2006 2:58:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com queer is a choice just like bisexuality is...
40 posted on 07/12/2006 3:04:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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What difference does it make? (1 vote for "this is not an important question, whichever side of it is true")


42 posted on 07/12/2006 3:05:21 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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One for the list? Nice simple overview.


50 posted on 07/12/2006 3:23:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Born gay?

Many people are born with mental disorders.

I doubt anyone would dispute that.

However, many mental disorders can be treated and "cured" or at least managed.

Homosexuality, is a disorder, or mental illness, but it does not need to be accepted, treatment can and should be explored.

Its like being born bipolar, you don't sit there and say, "thats the way we are, why should we change?".

64 posted on 07/12/2006 4:54:53 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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Even if there were a scientific basis, it would still be suicide to engage in that destructive behavior. So the best counsel a caring person could give would be: "Don't do it."


67 posted on 07/12/2006 5:05:23 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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However, the innate-immutable theory of homosexuality has no basis in science. The simplistic biological theory has been dismissed by all of the researchers whose studies have been cited to support the notion that homosexuality is so deeply compelled by biology that it cannot change>

ALL human beings are heterosexual (a scientific term describing those sexually procreative by means of two sexes e.g. male & female versus asexual which is self procreative). The whole 'homosexual' (non-scientific term) innate identity thing is leftist propaganda. 'Homosexuals' are simply disordered heterosexuals -heterosexuals that feel predisposed to or actually choose to engage in homosexual activities.

Take note that 'sex' as it applies to the heterosexual term is scientifically premised in procreation while 'gender' as it applies to the disordered heterosexual (homosexual) term is leftist derived propaganda premised in the pursuit of recreational sexual activity that is objectively unnatural, unhealthy, and by default can not produce children...

71 posted on 07/12/2006 5:11:50 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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There is no genetic test or procedure (experimental or otherwise) that can determine one's sexual orientation. When people claim to be gay and we believe them, what we're really doing is taking them at their word. We believe their claim, we believe their testimony and we believe their declaration that they are gay.

But there are some people who are suddenly skeptical when one claims to be ex-gay. They don't believe the ex-gay claim, they don't believe the ex-gay testimony nor their declaration that they are ex-gay.

When somebody uses a certain standard to measure the credibility of what one group says, but then refuses to use the same standard to measure the credibility of what another group says--thereby ignoring the claims of the second group (ex-gays)--he should ask himself why he believes one group and not the other... This is a double standard.

84 posted on 07/12/2006 7:46:54 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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I have a question? I know this is not an absolute for all but it seems to be for the most. At least all I have known which is about 50 lesbians and gay guys. I have noticed that they all seem to pair up in a paticualar way that is alot like hetersexuals. One guy is obviously the more feminine acting. You may not always notice it when they are out in a very public place but once you know them it is obvious. The female like man is more jealous of other men and women, more nervous and hysterical, cries easily. The same with lesbians one is butch and one look like a normal female in attaire and style of hair, body weight, clothes and mannerisms. So they still in their sexual gay or lesbian relationships have a pairing that is very similar to heterosexuals. Any one else noticed this and does anyone else wonder why????


85 posted on 07/12/2006 7:54:40 PM PDT by therut
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94 posted on 07/12/2006 9:19:15 PM PDT by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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