Posted on 07/11/2006 10:07:52 AM PDT by churchillbuff
Iraq will ask the United Nations to end immunity from local law for U.S. troops, the human rights minister said on Monday, as the military named five soldiers charged in a rape-murder case that has outraged Iraqis.
In an interview a week after Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki demanded a review of foreign troops' immunity, Wigdan Michael said work on it was now under way and a request could be ready by next month to go to the U.N. Security Council, under whose mandate U.S.-led forces are in control of Iraq.
"We're very serious about this," she said, blaming a lack of enforcement of U.S. military law in the past for encouraging soldiers to commit crimes against Iraqi civilians, such as the alleged rape and murder of a teenager and killing of her family.
"We formed a committee last week to prepare reports and put it before the cabinet in three weeks. After that, Maliki will present it to the Security Council. We will ask them to lift the immunity," Michael said. "If we don't get that, then we'll ask for an effective role in the investigations that are going on.
"The Iraqi government must have a role."
Analysts say it is improbable the United States would ever make its troops answerable to Iraq's chaotic judicial system.
The day before handing formal sovereignty back to Iraqis in June 2004, the U.S. occupation authority issued a decree giving its troops immunity from Iraqi law. That remains in force and is confirmed in an annexe to Resolution 1546, the Security Council document that established the U.S.-led force's mandate in Iraq.
Dont worry the UN has no jurisdiction over the US and never will.
Ok then, remove the troops.
Christ, you're getting tiresome.
To ask the UN to do ANYTHING is folly...
You want a role??? Sure, I'll send you a box of Krispy Kremes, you morons...
If the truth bores you, that's not my problem.
Didn't those Islamic animals just mutilate and kill two people for the crime in question?
We could trade the rapist for the murderers and each punish them. We could each keep our own (we punish the rapist, they punish the murderers).
Or, since we killed some of them and they killed some of ours, we could just say we're even...
Just go start voting Democrat and leave us alone.
After 65 years of watching the utopian elites at work behind the scenes, I've learned never to say "never," especially where the would-be locus of their sought-after one world government, the UN, is concerned.
I think what it means is that the Iraqi PM has to present a certain image to his own people--that he will stand up for them (even if he loses, which he will since the USA can veto anything the UN tries to do on the security council) against even the hugely powerful USA...IMHO alot of the UN stuff is merely theatre...he gets to display his outrage and we get a public wrist slap...hopefully the soldiers that did this horrific crime (and I believe that one of them came forward and confessed to his CO after the execution of his fellow soldiers) will have a speedy trial and the military court's decision will be fair and satisfy all parties.
There is an Iraqi constitution, created by democratically elected representatives of the people of Iraq, and adopted by a vote of the people.
You can trivialize the "fundamental source" aspect of the constitution into making up a straw man argument if you wish; but before you go equating Iraq with Islamic dicatatorships, maybe you could give a little more thought to what we've accomplished.
At the very least, show some sort of intellectual grasp by quoting the part of the Iraqi constitution that says "this nation shall be an Islamo-fascist dictatorship so that we may declare the lives of 2500+ American service men and women to have been wasted."
These people can't even try Saddam.
Uhm... ok, we leave Iraq right now then if they feel that way... They cannot expect our soldiers to be black mailed, or have this hanging over their heads while in combat.
But is it the truth, or is it just Churchillbuff spin, designed to piss people off?
Wouldn't the definition of a Fundamentalist Islamic state be one that used only the Koran for law, was ruled by Clerics, had no deviation from Sharia, and the like? That seems like a pretty good description of Iran, Afghanistan before the liberation, and now probably Sommalia. It seems like a very poor description of the new Iraq, which while not as fully westernized as, Poland or France, still has a functioning multi-party democratic form of government, a legal code seperate and apart from the Koran, does not include key elements of traditional Sharia law (such as stoning for adultery, hand chopping for theft, etc) and is struggling to find a way towards an accomidation of Islam with modernism.
Repeating a claim that is false or misleading while pretending it is unassailable "truth" is a favorite tactic of the left (vis: global warming) and is the very definition of tiresome.
Yep
Forgot the sarcasm tag.
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING
"(Reuters) to go to the U.N. Security Council, under whose mandate U.S.-led forces are in control of Iraq."
Actually we went into Iraq WITHOUT UN approval. And besides, the UN has their share of rapists and enslavers. Sort of like going to Bill Clinton for rape counselling.
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