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To: bruinbirdman

In light of all of this I would like to know two things. #1, what has caused a seven fold incres in prices? And no, I am not stupid or ignorant, it is a legitimate question. and #2, when will the obviously overinflated price of oil drop?


2 posted on 07/10/2006 9:55:55 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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Answer: Increased demand and fear of supply disruption are the main causes for the rise in prices. The price will go down if supply increases, fear subsides, and/or demand decreases. A drop of 7% in total use would drop prices significantly. People have slowed their use by very little so far, as the price doesn't bother them enough yet to change their behavior.

I have a Nissan Maxima, 265 horsepower, 0-60 mph in 6.3 seconds. I get 24 mpg in town and 32 on the highway if I keep my foot out of it, so to speak. Mostly I keep my foot out of it, allowing myself a little fun from time to time. Gas is cheap, and I'm driving as much as I want.

When gas prices get too high, consumption will decline, and so will prices. $3 a gallon will have no effect on my driving, maybe $4 will, we'll see.
3 posted on 07/10/2006 10:20:35 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: .. . *-O)) :-{>. . . .)
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It's not overinflated--it's finally up to normal.


4 posted on 07/10/2006 10:24:11 PM PDT by Rte66
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Many factors have gone into the increase in the price of oil. The environmental ban premium has always been there. What's new is the 911 premium, GWB's weak dollar premium, GWB's demand side policy premium, the Iraq war premium, the unrest in Nigeria premium, the kook in Venezuela premium, the hurricane premium, the kook in Iran premium, and the kook in North Korea premium. I may have left out a couple, but you get the idea.

I posted the above on another thread earlier today. One must also remember that when oil was $12 a bbl it was artificially low due to an overly strong dollar and economic problems in Asia.

5 posted on 07/10/2006 10:34:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: phoenix0468
1) SPECULATORS

2) The Democrats/environmental wackos unwillingness to support USA drilling for oil

3) President Bush's (and the Republican senate and congress's) unwillingness to put a full court press on GENUINE ENERGY POLICY/REFORM.

Energy and the lack thereof is a direct threat to our national security, he should present an executive order to drill in Anwar and everywhere else we have proven oil reserves. He should also provide for new refineries and nuclear power plants in order to limit our dependence on oil being sold by people who hate our country, who openly support our enemies and who want to see us converted, enslaved to Islam or dead.

Why worry? Because this energy crisis is killing us as a nation and hurting millions of middle class and poor Americans and it is only going to get worse. Sure the rich and the speculators are not impacted, but EVERYONE ELSE in America is.

6 posted on 07/10/2006 10:39:20 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Convert, Slavery or Death = "Islam the Religion of Peace tm" "It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims")
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A very little-noted (at the time) fact from several years ago was a major reason for the rise in oil prices - when China changed from a net exporter to a net importer of oil. I bet you don't remember seeing that factoid on the front page of the paper. When I saw that, buried deep in the financial section, I knew things were going to change at the pump in a bad way.

If you expect oil prices to collapse any time soon, you are sadly mistaken. Some pin the blame on a supposed "Iraq war premium," but that would have faded out by now. It's all suppy and demand, and the Asian countries are behind the surging demand.

Incidentally, I don't really mind the high gasoline prices, though I probably have to use more than most folks who post here due to my job. The reason is that I know that the high prices are keeping that oil coming here instead of to China or some other place.

7 posted on 07/10/2006 10:42:33 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: phoenix0468

spot market deals with options.


17 posted on 07/11/2006 1:44:59 AM PDT by Rummenigge
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To: phoenix0468
what has caused a seven fold incres in prices

First ask what caused the drop to $10 /bbl in 1999, by far the lowest price in history, in real $?

The Asian economic slump. Oil is a volitile commodity, where supply and demand are fairly nicely balanced world-wide. A sharp drop or rise in demand creates a "glut" or "shortage" that causes a big price reaction.

As the world economy recovered, (Bush Tax Cuts didn't hurt, either), demand went up, and the jitters of the lat 4 years have meant that people also want to have their stocks fuller than usual.

World wide production actually continues to increase, setting new all-time records 8 of the last 11 years (including the last 4).

Oil will continue to fluctuate, but without actually cutting production sharply, "speculators" can't keep a price up (or down) forever -- see the Hunt Brothers and Silver in the 1980s.

Calm the jitters and keep increasing production, and we'll be fine.

19 posted on 07/11/2006 4:11:59 AM PDT by BohDaThone
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In light of all of this I would like to know two things. #1, what has caused a seven fold incres in prices? And no, I am not stupid or ignorant, it is a legitimate question. and #2, when will the obviously overinflated price of oil drop?

Have you ever noticed the value of gold? What do you suppose causes it to change? When you figure that out you'll understand oil's price.

42 posted on 07/11/2006 7:34:21 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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Oil prices will NOT come down. They need to be high to make further exploration profitable.

It is important that the oil companies are confident the prices stay high. They don't want to start drilling and refining and then find out the prices drop.

Hard pill to swallow, but necessary.


48 posted on 07/11/2006 9:41:47 AM PDT by zeebee
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