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Rove: Bush to veto DeGette bill (stem cell)
Denver Post ^ | 10 july 2006 | John Farrell

Posted on 07/10/2006 1:39:16 PM PDT by Notwithstanding

President Bush will likely cast the first veto of his presidency if the Senate, as expected, passes legislation to expand federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research, White House aide Karl Rove said today.

"The president is emphatic about this," Rove said in a meeting with the editorial board of The Denver Post.

The U.S. House of Representatives has already passed the legislation, co-sponsored by Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Denver, and Rep. Mike Castle, R-Del. If the Senate approves the bill this month it would go to the president's desk.

(Excerpt) Read more at denverpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; hr810; repubwaronscience; sciencehaters; stemcell; veto; vetoit
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To: sinkspur
Destroying lives to save lives is not ethical. Bush realizes that. You don't, apparently.

There is no evidence that stem cell research has saved or will ever save a life. It is destroying existing lives for very minute chance that future lives may be saved. How did this even get passed in the House?

41 posted on 07/10/2006 2:02:31 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (True statesmen ... are not defined by what they compromise, but what they don’t.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
You pro-life morons are really good at twisting an issue around.

Boy, you really know how to swing folks to your point of view, don't you?

42 posted on 07/10/2006 2:03:10 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
You pro-life morons are really good at twisting an issue around.

You pro-death, baby-killing idiots sure get mad when your diabolical plans are frustrated.

Pro-life bump.

43 posted on 07/10/2006 2:03:25 PM PDT by d-back
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To: af_vet_rr

It hasn't happened yet.


44 posted on 07/10/2006 2:03:52 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Knock it off.


45 posted on 07/10/2006 2:03:53 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Lunatic Fringe
This is to fund research of embryonic stem cells that otherwise already exists.

California is doing that. Why not find out if their money does something first?

46 posted on 07/10/2006 2:04:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Why do you want to spend federal money to kill embryos when there is ZERO evidence that doing so will result in helpful therapies, and by so doing DIVERT funds to adult stem cell research that has proven to result in extremely beneficial therepies? Are you ignorant or simply an atheist who hates conservative values?


47 posted on 07/10/2006 2:04:17 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Texas Federalist
How did this even get passed in the House?

I don't know, but Frist now supports this foolishness in the Senate, so it will likely pass there as well.

Nancy Reagan his invoking her dead husband to shame people like Orrin Hatch into voting for it.

48 posted on 07/10/2006 2:04:41 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Notwithstanding
"Now where did I put that veto pen?"


49 posted on 07/10/2006 2:05:32 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Notwithstanding
Adult stem cells: hundreds of successful therapies
Embryonic stem cells: zero therapies, despite mega funding

Yup. Private funding is low, from what I understand, because ESC research isn't promising. But the culture of death still wants to fund research on human embryos.

50 posted on 07/10/2006 2:06:31 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
This is to fund research of embryonic stem cells that otherwise already exists. The money is not to create the stem cells, but to study them.

Even assuming this is true (which it is not), this bill provides federal funding of research more efficiently conducted by the private sector. How could a fiscal conservative even be in favor of this bill?

51 posted on 07/10/2006 2:07:36 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (True statesmen ... are not defined by what they compromise, but what they don’t.)
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To: Notwithstanding

Kill this bill Mr. President.


52 posted on 07/10/2006 2:07:41 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: Prov3456
First, there is nothing that stops embryonic stem cell research now. In 2001, the President only prevented FEDERAL funding for it. The President will veto a bill which would permit federal funding.

Right on. Gee I wonder why there isn't massive private research?? Maybe because ESC "research" isn't about research at all.

Instead, it is about demeaning human life and about scientists getting their noses into the public trough.

I'm glad GWB will veto the bill.

53 posted on 07/10/2006 2:08:41 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
If the returns are too far into the future, almost no company would invest in it.

That is because Global Warming is going to kill us first.

54 posted on 07/10/2006 2:10:17 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Notwithstanding
Good for him.

I agree. If this is so promising, they are free to get private funding.

55 posted on 07/10/2006 2:11:43 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: July 4th; edcoil

What is wrong with THIS story??

It seems like no matter WHAT Bush does/doesn't do, there are some that will find a reason to be mad...

sheesh


56 posted on 07/10/2006 2:12:08 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME--)
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To: Notwithstanding

57 posted on 07/10/2006 2:12:09 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: Texas Federalist
"Even assuming this is true (which it is not), . . ."

I agreed with everything you posted Texas Federalist, but I'm isolating the first portion of it to suggest a second alternative ending that I consider equally valuable.

"Even assuming this is true (which it is not), successful use of the research money could potentially lead to nightmare scenarios typical of the scariest science-fiction stories in which human embryo factories would be used to sustain pharmaceutical company profits."
58 posted on 07/10/2006 2:14:33 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: Txsleuth

No kidding, what losers!


59 posted on 07/10/2006 2:15:08 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Notwithstanding

He isnt making a special exemption for illegal aliens is he?


60 posted on 07/10/2006 2:15:43 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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