I never want to rain on anyone's parade, but just for the sake of accuracy, if I read Peach's transcription on post # 44, this was said by Ashton Carter. Ashton Carter is a Clintonoid. What he is implying is that President Bush, and the republicans, would rather talk indirectly with six others, or not talk at all, and that's immoral if NK gets a nuke.
While I agree it's immoral if NK gets a nuke, that fault does NOT lie with the Bush administration (for not talking directly). It lies with fools like Carter up through Billy Jeff, who let Kim off the hook in the 90s to have just enough cash/goods for their people to continue funding their bomb works.
Thanks AB, I myself got little confused on that until your post made it clear.
W was vehement in his Chicago presser that he didn't want to walk into a head-on "trap" with 1 on 1 talks with N. Korea. Is he referring to the inevitable failure of such talks, and then the US is blamed solely?
Perfect analysis, Alas. The implication was that Bush is not a moral man if NK develops nuclear capability.
Media Nuggets
###### A New Low for the 'Progressives'. In one of the most despicable leftist attacks ever, Deborah Frisch, psychology professor at the University of Arizona, has been threatening Jeff Goldstein(Conservative Colorodo blogger)'s 2-year old child & pays the price. Malkin's take here.
###### Where 's MSM's outrage? - It was okay for the dems (& MSM) for a judge to remove Robert Torricelli from the ballot in the fall of 2002 at the last hours so that another democrat GET ELECTED, but it is unfair for a judge to remove Tom DeLay from the ballot in even though he withdrew & shifted to Virginia 8 months before 2006 election. Looks like Delay's Bring-it-on moment.
###### Will he get an Hard-ball invite? - someone is refusing to go to Iraq, but he is an ABC Television Reporter.
###### Clinton's WH staffer Rep. Rahm Emanuel (is he related to Mike Emanuel?), equates Tom Delay with Osama bi Laden. What will MSM do if a republican did this to a dem?
###### The Baltimore Sun, Chicago Tribune, Newsday and the Los Angeles Times will CLOSE several Foreign Bureaus -> including Beirut, Lebanon, Islamabad, Pakistan, London, Beijing, South Africa and Moscow. Ssshh! ABC & NBC closed their Moscow bureau too.
###### "Look at the timing of this death. He has the financial resources and powerful friends (Bush family, etc.) to pull off a fraudulent death to escape justice. There must be an independent source allowed to verify the death of Ken Lay." - No, this is not from DU chat, but fom the Wash.Post chat.
###### Leak backlash! - Subpoenas for Cleveland papers?
###### Remember NBC's fake flood news flunked? Now, here 's a Cameraman Fined for Fake News.
###### Washington Post Pollster Richard Morin jumped to Pew Research Center. David Ensor- national security correspondent quit CNN & reportage like Ron Founier. Linda Vester not coming back to Fox & looking for radio opportunities.
###### Treasonous NYTimes.
###### BBC wants George Bush "to rot in hell" and then apologises, unlike our media. Fast losing Ratings & support like MSM here.
Only the punch line is important. That a Clintonoid said it is just an extra bonus.
He was trying to say that one camp (Bush admin) wants 6-party talks, and another camp (anti-Bush coalition) wants US-NK "talks".
But it didn't come out the way he may have meant to say it.
...It's a delicate balance. Foreign aid is meant to alleviate suffering, but is used by the dictators for their own aggrandizement. This props up the regime - which should have been allowed to die of natural causes - but that would entail human suffering and so we send in the aid...and so the dictatorship continues to breathe.
I agree AB, this debacle is NOT the fault of the Bush administration, and thanks for this thread and the ping.
It would seem to me the countries closest to NK would be the most threatened. SK, Japan, China, Russia, etc. The only one of those 4 to even have a modicum of decency and brain matter is Japan. I say arm Japan to the teeth, in full view of the idiot running NK, and tell NK we will supply them with as much Tabasco as needed to mix with the nuke stuff they intend on making. They're starving so maybe they can mix it to a composition that is edible.
I don't think they have the capability to hit the U.S. but if they do, make a parking lot of NK. Innocents killed, yeah, but war is hell. I say send this message in a letter, not direct face-to-face, and tell them no reply is necessary.
Oh yeah, how about arming a terrorist nation, etc. I would hope our intelligence is still good enough to trace nuclear material back to the vendor nation and include this in the message about "how many cars do you want to park in that parking lot we will make of your country".
In conclusion, call their bluff. I'm tired of listening to "the world" tell us how to handle this.
/rant off, back to reading, I'm way behind.
But then reality sets in. We are almost alone in the world today as a last resort for the freedom of a nation. We have to be ever so selective how and where we use our very limited power. North Korea has a standing army of 1,000,000 starving dog and cat eating troops just waiting to stream across the border shooting everything in sight.
For us to attack them would play right into their hands, not to mention the Chinese,who are undoubtedly getting a play by play chuckle out of things.
Yet on the other hand we don't want them sitting with a couple of dozen nukes(thanks to the Clintonistas and fat maddy),so it's a tough problem to deal with.
As N.Korea's neighbors arm themselves the problem may go away or we may face Little Kim's attack on the Japanese sea once more, who knows. It's a tough call and few out there are making any tough calls these days. As for iran,(notice both countries are run by psycho/wack-jobs)our best hope remains dissension from within possibly leading to regime change. Many of the locals, who are not yet starving, are dissatisfied with the mullah rule and hopefully one day regime change will occur there as well. Truth is as much as wee would like to be policeman to the world, we don't have the resources or the will.
True... that's why the Dem's have to be ignored in their pathetic calls for one-on-one talks. The NK we face today is no different now than the NK we faced in 1950. The world is different... war is different... and Lord knows the UN is different... but NK is still the same, rabid, pit-bull of the Russians/Chinese that it was 56 years ago.
Any 'discussion' with them should be done either through the 6-party talks or via the UN. In the meantime... get moving pronto on that ABM shield.
You aren't raining on my parade at all, AB, and I appreciate you going back to look. I had to rush and get ready for church and I'm leaving now but will check in for other freeper reports of the talk shows today.