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China Deploys Nuclear Submarines...Capable of Nuclear Counterstrike(Thank you Clinton)
JoongAng Ilbo ^ | 07/07/06

Posted on 07/08/2006 12:19:52 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

/begin my translation

China Deploys Nuclear Submarines...Capable of Nuclear Counterstrike

Hong Kong's Xin-bao reported on July 7th that China has deployed next-generation nuclear submarines and is capable of second nuclear counterstrike.

German military publication 'International Navy' reported that China officially deployed recently-developed Type 093 and 094 nuclear submarines, and conducted training exercises. They are in combat-deployment now, according to the publication.

It said that Type 094, Tang-class, is the improved version of Xia-class nuclear submarine, with 10,000-ton displacement, and can carry 16 Julang-2 SLBM's which have the range of 10,000 km. Each Julang-2 can have three nuclear-warheads, which means that a single Type 094 submarine can strike 48 targets simultaneously.

Type 094 has fourth-generation nuclear reactor and is equipped with noise-suppression feature and precision sonar capability. It has superior stealth, mobility, and survivability, which is rated as comparable to Ohio-class submarine of U.S.

Type 093 is an attack submarine with 7,150 ton displacement , whose design is based on Han-class submarine.

If their deployment is successful, Chinese nuclear capability will expand from land-based nukes to second nuclear counterstrike, according to this publication.

People's Daily, Chinese official communist party paper, featured an article on its Internet site about the submarines on July 6th, which is a de-facto confirmation of their deployment.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boomer; china; chinesemilitary; clinton; clintonlegacy; geopolitics; julang2; missiles; nuclearsubmarine; secondstrike; type093; type094
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To: stainlessbanner
That is a probably more apt incrimination as regards espionage, although the new missiles going onto the 094 certainly also benefited from the guidance and stabilization intelligence they gathered/stole/were given.

So, yes, I believe the Toshiba debacle benefited the Chinese in this area.

141 posted on 07/10/2006 11:53:03 AM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: Crim

You need to read post 45.


142 posted on 07/10/2006 3:49:31 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: jpsb

Have you been to a Lowe's or Home Depot recently? I was looking to buy a new corded drill today and went to Lowe's. They had 6 models under $120(my price range) all were made in China except the one I bought which was a DeWalt made in Mexico. Not one reasonable priced drill on the display was built in this Country. Look at the screwdrivers, hammers, wrenches etc and you will be hard pressed to find a made in America label.


143 posted on 07/10/2006 7:18:13 PM PDT by redangus
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To: maine-iac7

Please help this is England...... what's an E bomb ?


144 posted on 07/11/2006 12:18:56 PM PDT by Brit1 ( Not by Strength by Guile.)
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To: Brit1
Please help this is England...... what's an E bomb ?

Something I HOPE we have tucked away in our arsenal!

"E" for EMP Electro-Magnetic Pulse Bomb (Iran's mad-man-adab says he has one - doubt it)

excerpt from link;

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/ebomb.html

"High Power Electromagnetic Pulse generation techniques and High Power Microwave technology have matured to the point where practical E-bombs (Electromagnetic bombs) are becoming technically feasible, with new applications in both Strategic and Tactical Information Warfare. The development of conventional E-bomb devices allows their use in non-nuclear confrontations...The ElectroMagnetic Pulse is in effect an electromagnetic shock wave .."

**************************** It is detonated in the air above the target area/country and "kills" all electronics...cars, communications, weapons, computers, EVERYthing - basically plunging everything and everyone back to preindustrial time.

It doesn't kill people or destroy buildings, but reduces the population to sitting ducks, incapable of defense or retaliation.

Let's hope no mad-man gets the jump on us with this one.

I imagine more than one liberalRAT that did everything they could to prevent Reagan's SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative that they slurred as "Star Wars" wishes they had not prevented full scale development. We've had to limp along with limited funds and it is still in the infancy stages.

What I could never understand is how the opponents of SDI could be so against a system that does no harm to any one, does not attack any country, but ONLY provides protection from an attack launched AT us? And Reagan said not only do we need to develop SDI but that we should share the technology with other key countries.

No one ever made the MSM and the democrats answer why this was so terrible?

At this stage and time, I hope we have both the E-bomb AND that our SDI program is further along than they are letting on. "

In the meantime, I'm looking for a donkey..;o)

145 posted on 07/11/2006 4:56:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time")
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To: maine-iac7
Thanks for that 'main-iac7' but do I remember from somewhere that the former soviets had replaced all their transistors with thermionic valves etc to try and counter this threat ?

Absolutely with you on SDI. I can't understand it being scrapped...its essential to the defence of 'the Free World'and I know that us Brits were/are well into the advanced technological stuff ( at Cambridge Uni) with your American Uni's.

Regards
146 posted on 07/12/2006 3:30:51 AM PDT by Brit1 ( Not by Strength by Guile.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them" Vladimir Ilyich Lenin


147 posted on 07/12/2006 9:49:46 AM PDT by Fithal the Wise
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To: pganini; Brian Allen
You must not have read many of Brian's stream of consciousness rant and dis against the Lee family their tin pot rule of Singapore in his patented, inimitable style ...

Somehow, I get the feeling he is not particularily fond of Singapore under MM LKY and the estimable SM Goh and PM Lee.
148 posted on 07/15/2006 10:55:56 AM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Republican Party Reptile

<< I get the feeling .... >>
But what do you think?


149 posted on 07/16/2006 11:40:14 AM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: pganini; Republican Party Reptile

Singapore's is only a petty dictatorship, effectively so as, to some extent or other, is every Asian gummint but, just as Singapore is not a real country nor is its gummint a real gummint. More like an elaborately, pre-emptively and absolutely corrupt town council. But: "move there," you say? I've been a regular visitor and/or a resident on and off for 47 years and have had a home there for 27.


150 posted on 07/16/2006 11:49:48 AM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Brian Allen; Republican Party Reptile

Whatever man, for someone who blasts the dictorships, communists, etc. you sure violate your own principle and live there. next time you complain, i am just going to laugh.


151 posted on 07/16/2006 6:00:44 PM PDT by pganini
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To: pganini

My first point was that you mouthed off comments about another poster without even bothering to check the poster's well established posting history on the topic (in this case, Singapore) showed both carelessness and ignorance on your part. But hey, what else is new? It's the same ol' you - firing off a poorly articulated, poorly aimed broadside without thinking.

Second point, be it dictatorship, authoritarian, totalitarian, single party oligarchy ... etc., there ARE differences in how these governments are manifested and how their power and governorship are exercised. And if you can't tell the difference or pretend for your silly arguments that there aren't ... well, that's obviously your prerogative, but you are not exactly helping your arguments.

I have lived for years in both Singapore and China (back in Singapore now, again). Yeah, Singapore is a petty little tin pot dictatorship, but it's not in the same league as China.

Some years ago, on my first re-assignment from Singapore to China, I was joking with my collegues back in Singapore that I had to stop complaining about Singapore's absurdly squeaky clean, all sunshiny and always toeing the official government position newspaper - The Straits Times ... realizing that the ST was positively of muck racking scandal sheet subversive 5th column press type when compared to the ML Chinese newspapers.


152 posted on 07/16/2006 7:13:33 PM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bttt


153 posted on 07/16/2006 7:56:25 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: pganini; Republican Party Reptile

<< ... next time you complain, i am just going to laugh. >>

I don't complain, that's for wimps, I observe.

So, the next time I complain about anything will be your first experience -- and mine -- of my doing so. Don't meanwhile hold your breath.

Laugh you head off, why not. That's what we Americans, sovereign rulers of the greatest nation there has ever been and/or ever will be, do every time a third world person offers us advice and/or passes judgement on us.

And you should have gotten the joke by now.


154 posted on 07/17/2006 12:13:56 AM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur)
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