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Broken Borders: Broken Promises (Simcox-Minuteman)
ABC 15 Investigators ^ | 4/27/2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/07/2006 8:58:04 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

Americans are donating thousands of dollars to support Minutemen patrolling the border. But you may be surprised where your money is NOT going in this 4-month investigation.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; corruption; culturekillers; deception; disinformation; fraud; hitpiece; immigrantlist; immigration; lies; mcdc; minuteman; minutemen; moonbatoblers; murthatheminutemen; obljudas; ohplease; openborderliars; propaganda; simcox; wherestheposse
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To: Texasforever
Marking this link on 501c non-profits.

Thanks.

1,901 posted on 07/12/2006 4:35:54 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: catholicfreeper
This isnt politcs this is a money making scam but regardless it should be more transparent what is going on. Heck, I never knew how Keyes could be so successful always losing campaigns.

IMO, it's never been about winning campaigns. It's been about increasing name recognition so that people will donate to all the PACs and other organizations.

1,902 posted on 07/12/2006 5:56:57 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: EternalVigilance
The only one behaving as a jackal between the two of us is you, EV. I simply asked why, and you attacked me with lies and absurd accusations.

But an interesting thing has occurred on this thread.

Before I saw it, I had complete respect for Simcox and admiration for the MM. When I watched Simcox himself on the video, I simply wondered why he was stonewalling revealing his finances, and stated that it bothered me.

Now, after your behavior, your rudeness, your lies, your absurd accusations of my being part of some evil pack, and your blind allegiance to Simcox and refusal to answer even the most basic questions, I have become convinced that he is guilty as charged.

In other words, as an independent thinker who came on this thread believing Simcox was a good man and this was a hit piece, you have now convinced me that he is guilty.

I'm not too sure that the man should think of you as a friend. No one who behaves as you have behaved on this thread is innocent, and the presumption is that the man he is 'defending' with lies and name-calling isn't innocent either. After reading your posts, I now believe that Simcox is a dishonest man.

You may want to think about that in the future.

1,903 posted on 07/12/2006 6:18:51 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName; streetpreacher
No.........YOU may want to read it again.

You now look like a complete idiot because you posted without thinking.

Scroll back and see what was said and what that evil accusation was in response to, and then apologize.

1,904 posted on 07/12/2006 6:21:08 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Amelia
IMO, it's never been about winning campaigns. It's been about increasing name recognition so that people will donate to all the PACs and other organizations.

The pat and bay buchanan family creed, and plus they have their toadie, Congressman tom tancredo, doing their bidding.

1,905 posted on 07/12/2006 6:24:01 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

There are several of them out there. Probably half the GOP field in 2000, and it could be that I'm being charitable on that estimate.


1,906 posted on 07/12/2006 6:27:20 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: LowOiL
Your welcome for clarifying.

Many arguments and accusations are made on this forum when people draw incorrect conclusions from statements because they are in a defensive mode, or don't know the history of the person posting. I am guilty of that myself.

There are people here who literally hate President Bush. They hate everything about him just like leftists do. And they hate those of us who respect and admire him.

It is those people to whom I was referring..........not the people like you and me who disagree with him on individual issues.

President Bush is a Christian and lives his life as one. We are in a fierce spiritual battle for the soul of this nation, and having a leader who is moral and filled with integrity, and seeking to live his life for God and that makes certain people deeply angry........and they're not all on the left.

I'm not talking about politics when I talk about 'serious personal problems'.........and I certainly don't include the majority of freepers in that category. And definitely not you. :)

1,907 posted on 07/12/2006 6:29:28 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Lurker; EternalVigilance
Can you cite a Federal Statute which says this for me? I'm a stickler for details like that. When someone makes such an assertion I, and many others on the forum, usually expect someone to back up such a goofy assertion with something that at least resembles a fact.

You know, I've been telling EV the same thing for 2 days, and he says my insistence on sourcing & citations is a personal attack.

I find that odd.

1,908 posted on 07/12/2006 6:39:35 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: catholicfreeper; Amelia; Howlin; onyx; Texasforever

Don't feel bad there were a lot of us who were naive but this thread is fantastic it raised questions and gave answers that will be beneficial to all for next time we are solicited to give donations. Thanks to all who have delved deep such as Amelia, Howlin, onyx, Texasforever, and all who helped to make us aware of behind the scenes of fundraising, PACS, etc.


1,909 posted on 07/12/2006 6:59:20 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName; streetpreacher
"B.S. The Real enemy are the CINOS and blue bloods who destroy liberty in the name of "fighting terrorism" and the FReepers who pander to them."

btw..........while you're at it, why don't you name a specific 'CINO' or 'blue blood' who is more dangerous than an Islamofascist or even an anti-American leftist.......like say, Michael Moore?

I'm presuming (perhaps incorrectly, but he never came back to defend his bizarre post), that streetpreacher was referring to President Bush as the enemy, more dangerous than bin Laden or Kerry, Dean or Kennedy.........but he'll have to come back and explain himself what he meant.

If you both share that POV, then you are no conservatives, that's for sure.........and it's very helpful for other freepers who ARE conservative (like me) to know it.

1,910 posted on 07/12/2006 7:01:47 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Amelia
You did notice that the poster I addressed my questions to is no longer on the thread, didn't you?

They're drive by posters rather like the drive by media.

They make a charge and then vanish when confronted and asked to provide evidence.

L

1,911 posted on 07/12/2006 7:39:32 AM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Lurker; Amelia
You did notice that the poster I addressed my questions to is no longer on the thread, didn't you?

Um, you asked him that at 3:05:34 AM.

Did it occur to you that he might, just might have gone to bed like the rest of us did?

They're drive by posters rather like the drive by media. They make a charge and then vanish when confronted and asked to provide evidence.

Perhaps you should take a look at his posts from last night and revise your description of how long he was here; I don't know about you, but 7 hours on one thread doesn't qualify as a "drive by" in my book.

Pesky facts.

1,912 posted on 07/12/2006 7:49:07 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Lurker; Howlin; Amelia
They're drive by posters rather like the drive by media.

They make a charge and then vanish when confronted and asked to provide evidence.

LOL!

Please clarify this for me, Lurker. You're referring to Howlin and trying to compare her to the leftist media, and saying she doesn't answer questions and stick with a fight??

Good GRIEF!! Don't you even care how silly you look by making that kind of absurd comment?

Will you say absolutely anything, regardless of how ludicrous, just to insult?

You people are looking smaller and smaller with every post. And you're taking your political agenda right down the drain with you.

1,913 posted on 07/12/2006 8:09:28 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

No, he's talking about Texasforever.

I guess he thinks Tex was suppose to stay up and answer all his questions until he was excused for the night.

Myself, sometimes I just get up and walk away.........how about you?


1,914 posted on 07/12/2006 8:12:03 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Lurker

What a stupid and wholly inaccurate accusation, but I expect this from the likes of you.


1,915 posted on 07/12/2006 8:35:30 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Howlin; Lurker; Texasforever
Thanks for the correction, Howlin.

No difference though.

A completely ludicrous accusation with no basis in fact.

Once again........the desperation of these folks to attack is sending them farther and farther into the abyss of absurdity.

1,916 posted on 07/12/2006 8:40:15 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: stopem

Amazing amount of information and you're right --- we all benefit. Thanks stopem.


1,917 posted on 07/12/2006 8:40:30 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: ohioWfan


It's called 'running on empty.'


1,918 posted on 07/12/2006 8:41:18 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Lurker; Texasforever; EternalVigilance
You did notice that the poster I addressed my questions to is no longer on the thread, didn't you?

As much time as he spent on here yesterday, I suspect he'll be back. At 3 a.m. (2 a.m. his time?) he might have decided it was bedtime.

They're drive by posters rather like the drive by media. They make a charge and then vanish when confronted and asked to provide evidence.

Hey, I was agreeing that people ought to back up their allegations.

Personally, I prefer sources, citations, and links. I don't think that accusing people of being liberals, RINOS, open-border lovers, and such instead of providing evidence quite makes the grade.

Do you agree?

1,919 posted on 07/12/2006 8:48:22 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: onyx

Indeed. In their attempts to take this forum down, they are destroying themselves.


1,920 posted on 07/12/2006 8:49:44 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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