Broken Borders: Broken Promises (Simcox-Minuteman)

ABC 15 Investigators ^ | 4/27/2006 | Staff

[Anti-Bubba182]

Americans are donating thousands of dollars to support Minutemen patrolling the border. But you may be surprised where your money is NOT going in this 4-month investigation.

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[EternalVigilance]

what is poorly sourced? I think we have been looking at info that is available on the web. Places like the FEC for instance. We are looking at Government filings. What is rumor here

LOL...you're the poster that used the CoCC as a source, and also said that you agree with 90% of what the SPLC espouses.

You have no credibility here.

[Texasforever]

Care to show one scrap of evidence that they aren't following the law?

There is more than a scrap the following shows more that one condition ya'll are violating even if your application is approved

Social Welfare Organizations

To be tax-exempt as a social welfare organization described in Internal Revenue Code (IRC) section 501(c)(4), an organization must not be organized for profit and must be operated exclusively to promote social welfare. Pursuant to changes enacted as part of the Taxpayer Bill of Rights 2, the earnings of a section 501(c)(4) organization may not inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any managers agreeing to the transaction. See the FY-2002 CPE topic entitled Introduction to IRC 4958 for more information about this excise tax. For a more detailed discussion of the exemption requirements for section 501(c)(4) organizations, see the FY-2003 CPE topic entitled IRC 501(c)(4) Organizations.

To be operated exclusively to promote social welfare, an organization must operate primarily to further the common good and general welfare of the people of the community (such as by bringing about civic betterment and social improvements).  An organization that restricts the use of its facilities to employees of selected corporations and their guests is primarily benefiting a private group rather than the community and, therefore, does not qualify as a section 501(c)(4) organization. Similarly, an organization formed to represent member-tenants of an apartment complex does not qualify, since its activities benefit the member-tenants and not all tenants in the community, while an organization formed to promote the legal rights of all tenants in a particular community may qualify under section 501(c)(4) as a social welfare organization. An organization is not operated primarily for the promotion of social welfare if its primary activity is operating a social club for the benefit, pleasure, or recreation of its members, or is carrying on a business with the general public in a manner similar to organizations operated for profit.

Seeking legislation germane to the organization's programs is a permissible means of attaining social welfare purposes. Thus, a section 501(c)(4) social welfare organization may further its exempt purposes through lobbying as its primary activity without jeopardizing its exempt status. An organization that has lost its section 501(c)(3) status due to substantial attempts to influence legislation may not thereafter qualify as a section 501(c)(4) organization. In addition, a section 501(c)(4) organization that engages in lobbying may be required to either provide notice to its members regarding the percentage of dues paid that are applicable to lobbying activities or pay a proxy tax. For more information, see Lobbying Issues .

The promotion of social welfare does not include direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. However, a section 501(c)(4) social welfare organization may engage in some political activities, so long as that is not its primary activity. However, any expenditure it makes for political activities may be subject to tax under section 527(f). For further information regarding political and lobbying activities of section 501(c) organizations, see Election Year Issues, Political Campaign and Lobbying Activities of IRC 501(c)(4),
(c)(5), and (c)(6) Organizations, and Revenue Ruling 2004-6.

[Howlin]

You have no credibility here.

Thankfully you don't get to decide that.

[MikefromOhio]

I think that would be 77 :)

[EternalVigilance]

Just for kicks, can you find a citation for that? You know, a source besides just you saying so? The rest of us do, regularly.

Nah. You do the work. I know the law.

I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to disprove a wrong assertion by "Tex" that he's already backed off of.

[nopardons]

You're new, so you haven't seen any of this before; but, it has all been just a case of deja vu, for those of us who have seen this all before. It does get boring........

The UNAPPEASEABLES flit from on "outrage" to another and no, nothing is ever "good enough" for them. *sigh*

[EternalVigilance]

The UNAPPEASEABLES flit from on "outrage" to another and no, nothing is ever "good enough" for them. *sigh*

Most folks just call them conservatives. Except those who aren't.

[Mo1]

I think that's called ... another dodge

[Texasforever]

Organizations awaiting approval are nonprofits, and they are required to follow the rules just as if the bureaucratic process involved was complete.

Nice tap dance. What happens when the application is denied?

[nopardons]

ENRON, ADELPHIA, and a few others do quickly come to mind; as well as several politicians in California, Conn., N.J., and on and on and on and on and ooooooooooooooooooooooooooon.

[Howlin]

LOL!

[EternalVigilance]

Thankfully you don't get to decide that.

Which once again shows your approval of the CoCC and SPLC sourcing...

[catholicfreeper]

It appears that Simcox was informally associating with the CoCC. You lay down with dogs expect a few fleas to come off.

[sinkspur]

Organizations awaiting approval are nonprofits, and they are required to follow the rules just as if the bureaucratic process involved was complete.

If they are waiting for approval then, by definition, they cannot advertise as nonprofits, since the applications might be refused.

I was born at night, but not last night, EV. I know these rules better than you do.

Simcox is invoking nonprofit status so he can hide his non-disclosures of expenditures.

Messing with the IRS is serious business. Simcox's little escapade with his stepdaughter will look like child's play after the tax boys get through with him.

[Texasforever]

Nah. You do the work. I know the law.

I think you may well get to know the law a lot better.

[NoCurrentFreeperByThatName]

You agree that patriotic freepers are more dangerous to this country than al Qaeda?

Hahaha! Thats a stretch, lady. Where do you get that?

You want that on record, do you??

Read it again.

"B.S. The Real enemy are the CINOS and blue bloods who destroy liberty in the name of "fighting terrorism" and the FReepers who pander to them."

[onyx]

Most folks just call them conservatives. Except those who aren't.

Wrong again. You each have your own particular litmus test. That's what groups you into the 'unappeasable' category.

[EternalVigilance]

Nice tap dance. What happens when the application is denied?

At least two of the organizations that I know of that you folks are trashing with lies and innuendoes are already fully approved 501c organizations, and are in full compliance with the laws.

[nopardons]

"Most folks"? Such as whom, EV...you and your band of merry friends?

The facts is, EV, MOST FOLKS call conservatives, CONSERVATIVES, and that would include everyone whom you've ever impugned and belittled.

[Texasforever]

B.S. The Real enemy are the CINOS and blue bloods who destroy liberty in the name of "fighting terrorism" and the FReepers who pander to them.

So you think the WOT is a smokescreen to destroy liberty?