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One Secret The Times Has Kept
WorldNetDaily ^ | 6 July 2006 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/06/2006 4:55:42 PM PDT by Hal1950

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Jack Cashill and most of the rest of the conspiracy theorists seem oblivious (or pretend to be) to the very detailed report of two airborne witnesses which they prepared - because they were dissatisfied by their brief interview by the FBI - and posted on the internet thereafter.

They indicate in their report that they were flying at 8500 feet when they saw the huge fireball explode below their own flight altitude and that they flew to the smoke cloud it left and found the top to be at 7700 feet, the middle at about 7500 feet and the sky clear of anything unusual above that.

Their report also includes the following February 1997 Addendum

Feb 97: Addendum: Time has passed, the mystery of the downing of Flight 800 still eludes us. (probably not all of us). Until all data is evaluated, we’ll have to wait for the official facts. From an idealistic view, there is no reason to think otherwise. (what a perfect world we live in). Since Ken & Sven made this report public, we have heard many opinions on our sighting. We saw what we saw and report it as such. We have nothing to gain or loose. It has apparent that some aviation experience is required in reading this report.

There is one fact that bothers us, however. No mention is ever made of the fact that the explosion was at 7500 feet! We do not dispute the fact that something happened at 13,800 feet, but what happened after that. There is 5000 feet unaccounted for.

We would like to emphasize: - We approached the black-gray smoke cloud on the west side. We were at 7700 feet and were at the top edge of the cloud. The cloud center was at 7500 feet. There were 2 small bumps atop it. There was no smoke or smoke trails above it. It was still lit up a little by the sun, clear above.”

We don’t why this has never been discussed in any scenarios.

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None of the conspiracy theorists have ever been able to conjure up a palatable missile(s) shootdown scenario for the public with that 5000 feet accounted for because the personally prepared detailed report of these two witnesses conclusively rules out the possibility that the 747 was shot down.

There was only one huge fireball explosion and it was first reported by radio to ATC at 8:31:50, 39 seconds after the initial event disabled Flight 800 at 13,800 feet.

1 posted on 07/06/2006 4:55:43 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Hal1950

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Not this.

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2 posted on 07/06/2006 5:02:37 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Hal1950

I believe that if there had been any kind of missile launch at all, it would have illuminated the sky, and would have been especially visible to aircraft flying above. The attention of the pilots in question would have been immediately diverted toward the source of such an event.

I think a more likely scenario is that the aircraft was leaking fuel, which ignited and left a visible trail which eyewitnesses mistook for a missile or other object streaking up toward the airplane.


3 posted on 07/06/2006 5:07:25 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Read later


4 posted on 07/06/2006 5:09:00 PM PDT by al baby (Dick Trickle is not a medical condition)
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To: al baby
Dick Trickle is not a medical condition

Moby Dick is not a social disease.

5 posted on 07/06/2006 5:09:46 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Hal1950

A 747 downed by a missle would bear lots and lots of tell tale shrapnel damage.


6 posted on 07/06/2006 5:12:11 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I believe TWA 800 was brought down by a terrorist bomb, either brought on board by a suicide passenger or planted there at the airport. I also believe it was very deliberately covered up by the Clinton Administration which did not want to alarm the public in an election year or invite scrutiny of its previous coverup, namely the Oklahoma City bombing. And guess who was behind both of these incidents? Saddam Hussein. Now do you want to guess again what Sandy Bergeer stuffed into his pants?


7 posted on 07/06/2006 5:17:33 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Meet the new dictators of America.....Bill Keller, James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and Dana Priest)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; al baby
The streak was of brief duration from the time it was first seen until it ended at the huge fireball explosion which took place no higher than 7500 feet (and perhaps much lower). It must have been ascending. The other witnesses simply had no reference point like the two quoted (keep in mind that the huge fireball exloded below their own flight altitude of 8500 feet.).

The streak must have been descending and most likely was fire in the falling wreckage.

8 posted on 07/06/2006 5:19:09 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Still too many conflicting statements for me to 100% believe this was an accident...the fact that it occured along with WTC 1 and OKC during the Clintonista reign has me more inclined to believe this was a terrorist hit.


9 posted on 07/06/2006 5:23:23 PM PDT by FlashBack (W)
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To: fso301
"A 747 downed by a missle would bear lots and lots of tell tale shrapnel damage."

None was reportedly found and the conspiracy theorists have been unable to publicly present any irrefutable evidence to to the contrary.

10 posted on 07/06/2006 5:23:59 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: FlashBack
There is just no good reason to believe that 880 was an accident...
11 posted on 07/06/2006 5:25:31 PM PDT by pointsal (Q)
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To: FlashBack; Mr Ramsbotham
Well, we now know that [1] you're both conspiracy theorists and [2] that you have no supporting evidence to present.
12 posted on 07/06/2006 5:29:50 PM PDT by Hal1950
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Unfortunately, the event itself, in the setting in which it occurred (the Clinton presidency...following several poorly explained and understood events-OKC bombing, Waco incineration, World Trade Center bombing, and the deathof the President's attorney, Vince Foster....just to name a few...)lends itself to endless speculation....a very silly scenario trying to lend a comprehensible explanation for the otherwise incomprehensible did'nt help....http://www.cnn.com/US/9711/18/twa.presser.update/pt1.35.mov


13 posted on 07/06/2006 5:32:45 PM PDT by mo
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To: Hal1950
I remember some media photos of the "reassembled" wreckage and would like to review all of the photographic evidence released.
14 posted on 07/06/2006 5:35:17 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Hal1950
"There is just no good reason to believe that 880 (sic) was an accident."

There's no irrefutable evidence of a missile attack or bomb, a cargo door accident, a meteor, lightning strike, etc. Theories have been abundant but after 10 years it's long past time for all the conspiracy theorists to put up or shut up.

15 posted on 07/06/2006 5:38:13 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Hal1950

You did read First Strike didn't you?


16 posted on 07/06/2006 5:40:45 PM PDT by ladyinred (The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
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To: Hal1950
Cahill always seems, if not exactly to be wearing a tin foil hat, at least to be toying with it, ready to don it.

Somebody more serious than him would have to pick up the torch of Flight 800 in order for me to pay attention.

17 posted on 07/06/2006 5:51:58 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Hal1950

Clinton never covered up anything. /sarcasm


18 posted on 07/06/2006 5:54:36 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Hal1950
Well, we now know that [1] you're both conspiracy theorists and [2] that you have no supporting evidence to present.

I don't know why you're calling me a conspiracy theorist. I think it was an accident, pure and simple. Nobody's trying to cover anything up; they're just trying to explain a freak accident as best as the facts of the case will allow.

I take my cue from a certain 747 mechanic who postulated a number of years ago that one of the engine cowlings wasn't properly secured; that it came loose and was forced back onto the wing, where its rivets punctured a fuel tank.

And numerous individuals skilled with missiles of all kinds have stated that any missile launch in the vicinity would have lit up the night sky--something that didn't happen.

19 posted on 07/06/2006 5:55:52 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Hal1950
There's no irrefutable evidence of anything. That's the problem. Eyewitness accounts may be all manner of inaccurate, but the NTSB's conclusion was based on their inability to prove any specific cause, so it must have been the center tank.

Bad science.

20 posted on 07/06/2006 5:58:16 PM PDT by sig226 (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who do not.)
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