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Hilary Suddenly Has '08 Jitters (she’s beatable in Iowa)
NY Post ^ | July 6, 2006 | Deborah Orin

Posted on 07/06/2006 2:35:27 AM PDT by IrishMike

SUDDENLY, it looks as if Hillary Clinton is running scared over 2008. A batch of Hillaryland moves over the past few weeks suggests a nervous- Nellie president wannabe rather than a confident Democratic front-runner. She hired a lefty blogger and cozied up to anti-war activists by pledging to desert pal Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) if he loses a primary over Iraq and runs as an independent.

To boot, hubby Bill Clinton went out to court activists in the first-test states of Iowa and New Hampshire by vowing that his wife supports their favored positions SUDDENLY, it looks as if Hillary Clinton is running scared over 2008. A batch of Hillaryland moves over the past few weeks suggests a nervous- Nellie president wannabe rather than a confident Democratic front-runner. She hired a lefty blogger and cozied up to anti-war activists by pledging to desert pal Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) if he loses a primary over Iraq and runs as an independent.

To boot, hubby Bill Clinton went out to court activists in the first-test states of Iowa and New Hampshire by vowing that his wife supports their favored positions

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006; 2008; clinton; election; election2008; electionpresident; elections; hillary2008; hillaryclinton
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

...A bloody and divisive floor battle at the DemonRAT Convention with the winner staggering out the door and onto the campaign trail with gay marriage, gun control, abortion on demand, illegal immigrants, and domestic treason as a foreign policy hanging on his/her coat tails.

What an enticing scenario!

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Even with the majority of the MSM in their hip pocket, they're going to need more that that.


21 posted on 07/06/2006 3:37:32 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

IMHO, the she-who-must-not-be-named has such a stunningly low likeability factor as to prevent any national campaign from having legs. You absolutely can not be elected president if you are not likeable, and she is most definitely NOT likeable, and never will be.


22 posted on 07/06/2006 4:13:44 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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To: IrishMike

the differences between her and say a Condi Rice are staggering. Can you imagine a debate with these two on foreign affairs. Hillary in fantasy land.. Condi in the reality.


23 posted on 07/06/2006 4:17:33 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: IrishMike

What is amazing to me is that anyone would even think of electing John Edwards.

The man is a friggin tort lawyer who got rich off bogus medical law suits
He has served a grad total of one term as senator where he did nothing and spent the last two years campaigning as Hore's lackey.
He knows about as much about our government as Cindy Sheehan and nothing of foreign politics.

How can you be considered a vioable Presidential Candidate if your only qualification is a nice head of hair.


24 posted on 07/06/2006 4:23:11 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: nikos1121

... (Hillary) differences between her and say a Condi Rice are staggering.


And that is putting it mildly.


25 posted on 07/06/2006 4:25:37 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

Howard Dean was the frontrunner here for a long time but Kerrey won--thus the scream.


26 posted on 07/06/2006 4:27:18 AM PDT by babaloo
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To: babaloo

.... the infamous 'Dean Scream' was the end of poor Howards campaign. Actually worked out well for the GOP because with Dean destroying the DNC, I 'll lay odds that the GOP not only holds the house and Senate, but may actually gain seats.


27 posted on 07/06/2006 4:31:24 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
IMHO, the she-who-must-not-be-named has such a stunningly low likeability factor as to prevent any national campaign from having legs.

Legs must NEVER be mentioned when referring to sinator hillary!

28 posted on 07/06/2006 4:35:08 AM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: IrishMike

Do the editors get paid double for being redundant?


29 posted on 07/06/2006 4:47:43 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: IrishMike
Howard Dean "won" Iowa by placing third and picking up eight delegates. In Liberal La La Land, however, this is almost like winning.
30 posted on 07/06/2006 4:48:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Vigilanteman

Thanks for the update.


31 posted on 07/06/2006 4:53:48 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: mombonn

whoa, sorry, my bad 8-p


32 posted on 07/06/2006 4:56:07 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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To: sgtbono2002
What is amazing to me is that anyone would even think of electing John Edwards.

If you look back over the years, he looks like a typical Democrat candidate to me. When have they ever produced a viable individual qualified to be president?

33 posted on 07/06/2006 5:02:05 AM PDT by depenzz (When your life flashes before your eyes, make sure you have something to watch)
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To: IrishMike

I like your prediction--one can only hope. Wouldn't it be grand? Here in Tennessee we have to stop Ford from getting into the senate. Our district is safely Repub. but there are a lot of libs from Memphis to Knoxville. Picking up seats will happen if the GOP would show far more spine. Maybe, just maybe it'll happen anyway.


34 posted on 07/06/2006 5:04:16 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: Izzy Dunne

They misspelled Hitlery.


35 posted on 07/06/2006 5:09:27 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: IrishMike
MickMike,

Still think she is a very dangerous threat to the country, but there is a history in the US of the early heir apparent not getting the nomination.

Ed Muskie
George Romney
In '68, Senator Scoop Jackson D-WA ("the senator from Boeing") had such a lock in the WH in '66 that he was picking out WH china!
36 posted on 07/06/2006 5:16:01 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: IrishMike
I still say she's like the EU constitution, or New Coke. Touted by the elites, but a big flop the moment the public gets a chance to register its opinion.

We can't underestimate her, but still I just don't see her succeeding.

She's just preventing more viable candidates from receiving attention.

What use will she have for New York State if she loses in '08? it won't be a stepping-stone anymore. Does she wait for a Democrat president to appoint her to some post? Any Democrat successful enough to be elected will have distanced himself or herself from her already.

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I hope the Clinton "dynasty" is already over.
37 posted on 07/06/2006 5:21:15 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: BamaAndy

City areas are the Democratic party base of strength. The dependent vote so to speak.

New York state is the same as Tennessee, vast majority of rural counties vote Republican, cities vote overwhelmingly Democratic. The red vs blue map for the state is actually majority red.


38 posted on 07/06/2006 5:35:33 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

Well, I wonder what Dickie Morris thinks about this. He is so certain that Hillary is going to be the Democratic candidate for President in '08.


39 posted on 07/06/2006 5:42:31 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: MindBender26; cvq3842

July 06, 2006
Personal Characteristics Loom Large in Americans' Views of Hillary Clinton
But negative views more likely to be based on politics and policy


by Frank Newport and Joseph Carroll

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans' positive opinions and impressions of New York Senator Hillary Clinton are based to a significant degree on views of her personality traits and character rather than on political or policy dimensions. Americans in particular admire her intelligence, the fact that she is a strong advocate for women, and that she is forthright and outspoken. The public's negative views of Clinton are roughly evenly split between her personality and policy positions, including basic disagreement with her politics and perceptions that she changes her mind too often and is wishy-washy.

Many Republicans say they have no positive impressions of Clinton and many Democrats say they have no negative impressions of her. However, beyond these differences, the basic views across party lines are similar. Men are much more likely to have negative views of Clinton than are women. Women's positive impressions of the former First Lady are built in particular on views of advocacy for women, her intelligence, and her forthrightness.

Gallup's most recent assessment of Hillary Clinton's overall image was 51% favorable and 44% unfavorable, taken from a June 23-25, 2006 USA Today/Gallup Poll. A separate Gallup Poll Panel survey conducted June 26-29, 2006 asked respondents to talk in their own words about what they "like or admire about Hillary Clinton" and also what they "dislike or don't admire about Hillary Clinton."

All in all, the public is just about as likely to be able to come up with positive views of Clinton as they are to come up with negative views. Thirty-six percent of Americans could not name anything they admire about Clinton, while 39% could not name anything they don't like about her.

There are big political differences on this dimension. Half of Republicans are unable to say anything they admire about Hillary Clinton, while 62% of Democrats are unable to say anything they dislike about her.

The Positives

An analysis of the various responses Americans' give about what they like about Hillary Clinton shows that these are much more likely to be based on perceptions of her personality and character than on political or policy dimensions.

The top categories of positive impressions of Clinton are: 1) her intelligence, 2) the fact that she is a strong advocate for women, 3) the fact that she is forthright, outspoken, and direct, 4) general agreement with her views, 5) her political career and leadership, and 6) her determination and tenacity.

Please tell me what you like or admire about Hillary Clinton.

June 26-29
2006

%

Intelligence
10

Strong advocate for women
9

Forthright/outspoken/direct
9

Agree with her views
6

Political career/leadership
6

Determination/tenacity/perseverance
5

Stands up for beliefs
4

Commitment to her husband/forgiveness
4

Strength/stamina
4

Courageousness/audacity
3

Knowledgeable/well-informed
2

Her campaign for the presidency
2

Honesty/integrity
2

Aggressive/assertive
1

Energetic/enthusiasm
1

Advocate for New York
1

She is a Democrat
1

Physical attributes
1

Good parent
1

Views on healthcare
1

Views on Iraq
1

Faithful/loyal
*



Other
10

Everything
1

Nothing
27



No opinion
9

* Less than 0.5%

Note: Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.


Here are the results of the positive impressions of Hillary Clinton by party:

Partisan Results: Like or Admire About Hillary Clinton
June 26-29, 2006

Republicans
Independents
Democrats

%
%
%

Strong advocate for women
8
8
12

Determination/tenacity/
perseverance
6
5
5

Intelligence
5
9
14

Forthright/outspoken/direct
5
9
12

Commitment to her
husband/forgiveness
4
4
4

Political career/leadership
3
4
10

Stands up for beliefs
3
3
7

Strength/stamina
3
4
4

Courageousness/audacity
2
5
3

Aggressive/assertive
2
2
1

Physical attributes
2
--
--

Views on Iraq
2
--
2

Agree with her views
1
5
10

Honesty/integrity
1
3
2

Energetic/enthusiasm
1
2
--

Good parent
1
1
--

Knowledgeable/well-informed
--
1
4

Her campaign for the presidency
--
1
3

Advocate for New York
--
1
2

She is a Democrat
--
--
3

Views on healthcare
--
1
2

Faithful/loyal
--
1
--





Other
8
12
9

Everything
--
--
3

Nothing
43
28
11





No opinion
7
10
8


Among Democrats, the top five positive views of Hillary Clinton are:

Her intelligence
Her advocacy for women
Her forthrightness, outspokenness, and directness
Agreement with her views
Her political career and leadership
Among Republicans, the top five positive views of Hillary Clinton are:

Her advocacy for women
Her determination, tenacity, and perseverance
Her intelligence
Her forthrightness, outspokenness, and directness
Her commitment to and forgiveness of her husband
There are no major differences in perceptions of the positive attributes of Hillary Clinton by gender, although there is some suggestion in the data that Clinton may have an appeal to women based on the fact that she is a woman (and would, of course, be the first female president in the nation's history). Twelve percent of women mention her advocacy for women as the factor that they most admire about her, doubling the percentage of men who mention that characteristic.

Gender Results: Like or Admire About Hillary Clinton
June 26-29, 2006

Men
Women

%
%

Intelligence
9
10

Forthright/outspoken/direct
8
10

Determination/tenacity/perseverance
7
4

Strong advocate for women
6
12

Agree with her views
6
6

Political career/leadership
5
6

Commitment to her husband/forgiveness
3
5

Strength/stamina
3
4

Stands up for beliefs
2
6

Courageousness/audacity
2
4

Honesty/integrity
2
2

Aggressive/assertive
2
1

Knowledgeable/well-informed
1
2

Her campaign for the presidency
1
2

Energetic/enthusiasm
1
--

Advocate for New York
1
1

She is a Democrat
1
1

Views on healthcare
1
1

Views on Iraq
1
1

Physical attributes
--
1

Good parent
--
1

Faithful/loyal
--
1




Other
13
7

Everything
1
1

Nothing
30
24




No opinion
7
10


The Negatives

The top two negative perceptions of Hillary Clinton are dislikes based on her political views in general, and the fact that she is perceived as being wishy-washy and wavering on the issues. These are followed by expression of a basic lack of trust in her, residues of past Clinton scandals, and the view that she is overbearing and aggressive.

Please tell me what you dislike or don't admire about Hillary Clinton.


June 26-29
2006

%

Dislike her political views in general/liberal political views
11

Wavers too much on issues to her advantage/wishy-washy
11

Don't trust her
8

Past history of Clinton scandals
7

Overly aggressive/overbearing
7

Just don't like her
5

Too much of an opportunist
4

Her attitude/arrogance
3

Cold/unfeeling personality
2

Lack of morals/ethics
2

Views on Iraq
2

Lack of experience/knowledge
1

Lack of support for Republicans
1



Other
5

Everything
5

Nothing
25



No opinion
14

Note: Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.


Americans' responses about what they dislike or do not admire about Clinton also vary by partisan groups:

Partisan Results: Dislike or Do not Admire About Hillary Clinton
June 26-29, 2006

Republicans
Independents
Democrats

%
%
%

Dislike her political views in
general/liberal political views
21
10
4

Wavers too much on issues to her
advantage/wishy-washy
15
12
8

Don't trust her
15
9
1

Past history of Clinton scandals
8
9
4

Overly aggressive/overbearing
6
7
7

Just don't like her
5
4
6

Too much of an opportunist
5
5
1

Her attitude/arrogance
5
2
3

Lack of morals/ethics
5
1
--

Cold/unfeeling personality
2
2
3

Views on Iraq
1
3
3

Lack of experience/knowledge
1
3
1

Lack of support for Republicans
1
2
--





Other
6
5
5

Everything
7
4
--

Nothing
8
20
44





No opinion
7
16
18


All but 15% of Republicans are able to name something they don't like about Hillary Clinton, with the top three categories being:

Political views in general
Wishy-washy, changes mind on issues
Lack of trust
Democrats are much less likely to have negative views of Hillary Clinton, but the top negatives among those who do are:

Wishy-washy, changes mind on issues
Overly aggressive, overbearing
Simply don't like her
Men are significantly more likely to be able to verbalize negative opinions of Clinton than are women. Seventy percent of men can mention something they don't like about Clinton, compared to 55% of women.

Gender Results: Dislike or Do Not Admire About Hillary Clinton
June 26-29, 2006

Men
Women

%
%

Wavers too much on issues to her
advantage/wishy-washy
15
8

Dislike her political views in
general/liberal political views
14
9

Don't trust her
10
7

Overly aggressive/overbearing
8
5

Past history of Clinton scandals
6
8

Too much of an opportunist
6
2

Just don't like her
5
5

Cold/unfeeling personality
3
2

Views on Iraq
3
1

Her attitude/Arrogance
2
4

Lack of morals/ethics
2
2

Lack of support for Republicans
2
1

Lack of experience/knowledge
1
1




Other
5
5

Everything
4
4

Nothing
18
31




No opinion
12
15


Survey Methods

Results for this panel study are based on telephone interviews with 1,002 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted June 26-29, 2006. Respondents were randomly drawn from Gallup's nationally representative household panel, which was originally recruited through random selection methods. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points. In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.


40 posted on 07/06/2006 5:44:32 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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