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Questions about the Affidavit against Pvt. Green (Iraqi Rape/Murder case)
Findlaw.com/Pissant ^ | 7/5/06 | Pissant

Posted on 07/05/2006 3:33:11 PM PDT by pissant

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To: pissant
In AD item #11, SOI3 says they were drinking on the 11th.

Consistent with #9 date.

201 posted on 07/06/2006 5:29:41 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: OmahaFields

From the AD:


9. On 06/26/2006, SOI2 was interviewed and explained that on the evening of 3/11/2006, Green and KP1 talked about raping the woman. The woman lived in a home behind the TCP. Green and KP1 had previously been to the residence. Subsequent to the conversation discussing raping the woman, SOI2, SOI3, KP1, and Green went to the home...

Now it may be that subsequent could have meant the next day, but doubtful.


202 posted on 07/06/2006 5:33:18 PM PDT by pissant
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To: OmahaFields

And it says "shortly thereafter" they changed clothes and departed for the house.


203 posted on 07/06/2006 5:35:08 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
I highlighted the sentence about the girl seldom leaving home, because it is in direct conflict with another version that said she had to cross the checkpoint everyday.

But you overlooked a very intriguing tidbit of that same statement (paragraph): Janabi said Abeer was not in school and, like other peasant girls, seldom left the house. But he said that three days before the killings, the Rasheed family was at his house and his cousin was complaining that the American soldiers at the nearby guard post were constantly searching her house. Janabi said the parents believed that the "girl was the target."

If true why were this family's house being searched constantly.

Or

Could this be a misinterpretation of what Janabi meant? Could have been watching the house or were they constantly searching the house?

204 posted on 07/06/2006 5:37:17 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: pissant

Please add me to your military ping list on these cases too, if you would.

Your research has been excellent.

TIA.


205 posted on 07/06/2006 5:40:48 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: TexKat

This is the same Janabi that siad that shots were fired and Iraqi Army were surrounding the house. All I know is that the Iraqi witnesses are horrible liars.


206 posted on 07/06/2006 5:40:51 PM PDT by pissant
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Now it may be that subsequent could have meant the next day, but doubtful.

Highly likely, if you read the affidavit and my previous posts.

207 posted on 07/06/2006 5:41:37 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: pollyannaish

Will do Polly.


208 posted on 07/06/2006 5:41:39 PM PDT by pissant
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And that is one mooslim psycho

Who was at one time an American Army soldier who served 17 years in the military. Go figure!

209 posted on 07/06/2006 5:44:17 PM PDT by TexKat
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"This is the same Janabi that siad that shots were fired and Iraqi Army were surrounding the house. All I know is that the Iraqi witnesses are horrible liars."

I have been following your posts as well. Could you add me to your ping list.
210 posted on 07/06/2006 5:46:58 PM PDT by scratcher
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To: OmahaFields

In the way you are choosing to piece this together, then yes, it would be likely. But 3 folks talked about 3/11 and one even said he was approached by an iraqi reporting it THAT date. So there is much to dismiss if 3/12 is the murder date.

Does not mean you are wrong, but that the AD is confused.


211 posted on 07/06/2006 5:49:26 PM PDT by pissant
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A HUGE question to me is: Who took the photos??? and when?

The army investigators when they went to investigate after the crime was reported.

212 posted on 07/06/2006 5:49:58 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: TexKat

Yes. One bad apple and a kid. Much different then 5 bad apples and a sixth who "knew" but did not say anything.

Maybe KP1 was such a dominant commanding presence, but we can rest assured that Green was not.


213 posted on 07/06/2006 5:51:00 PM PDT by pissant
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I said earlier, 2 people, I would understand. 5, I don't. Not US soldiers.

That sounds like you think the Iraqis did it.

214 posted on 07/06/2006 5:51:18 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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Maybe KP1 was such a dominant commanding presence, but we can rest assured that Green was not.

No we can't. We have had posts discussing how sometimes the mentally disturb can lead.

Lots of examples around to show that.

215 posted on 07/06/2006 5:52:47 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: pissant

That is why we need to wait for the trial to see the evidence both sides present.


216 posted on 07/06/2006 5:53:41 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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A HUGE question to me is: Who took the photos??? and when?

You are kidding right? You are pulling my leg, lol! Have you been reading any of the articles that have been posted?

217 posted on 07/06/2006 5:55:21 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: scratcher

You are on it now.


218 posted on 07/06/2006 5:56:09 PM PDT by pissant
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To: OmahaFields

Was it SOI5's group? Apparently, they were the first US soldiers on the scene after the murders. Or maybe they called in the photographer. But that pesky 3/11 date was the date he claimed.

We do know for a fact that the investigators and at least some of the jabani clan thought it was sectarian violence, which would be the natural inital conclusion.


219 posted on 07/06/2006 6:01:53 PM PDT by pissant
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I have created no hypothesis, and won't be able to until more info comes out. I always am suspicious of the first wave of information, because more often than not, it is wrong.

I do know that the MSM thought Haditha was a slam dunk for our men being guilty of a massacre. I'm willing to bet now that the Haditha Marines all walk free.


220 posted on 07/06/2006 6:06:26 PM PDT by pissant
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