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Even though Fuentes presents himself as an outsider not affiliated with any political party in Mexico, I get the feeling he tends a little to the left. In spite of this I am putting up a translation of the interview, which is from a Chilean newspaper, for two reasons:

One is that Fuentes appears to be convinced that Calderón did win the election, which is the first statement I have seen by anyone who might be associated with Lopez Obrador's followers -- Fuentes mentions that he has spoken with several people close to Lopez Obrador -- that suggests a recognition of defeat and Fuentes also asserts that the PRD will accept the official election result, something that I am watching closely, because I am not all convinced that is the case.

The second reason I have translated this interview and posted it is that I think it makes clear that the left in Mexico still sees the Catholic Church as the enemy of social progress in their country. For those of you who may not know it, some of the very worst of the Mexican Revolution involved the repression of the Catholic Church and it makes me wonder what Lopez Obrador and his followers might do if they grabbed power in this election. Many of you may remember that the Sandinistas in Nicaragua also initiated a repression of the Catholic Church in their country, which I believe contributed significantly to their eventual defeat, since the supporters of Liberation Theology -- who liked the Sandinistas -- were never a controlling voice within the Catholic Church in that country.

When I read Carlos Fuentes' words about poor Mexicans trusting in the Virgin of Guadalupe more than anything else, I see a touch of arrogance and disdain for the religiosity of the poor that poses dangers for Mexico if the situation unravels there. No matter where they are, the Left just cannot come to grips with that most basic human need to express faith.
1 posted on 07/05/2006 1:33:58 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: NYer

Thought you might like to see this.


2 posted on 07/05/2006 1:34:41 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: StJacques
Hmmm . . . apparently the only person Fuentes hates and fears more than Jesus is His mother.

Fascinating.

3 posted on 07/05/2006 1:35:40 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: StJacques; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
"The Virgin of Guadalupe transfers the social scales. The poorest Mexicans, natural voters of Lopez Obrador, trust in nothing more than in the Virgin."

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4 posted on 07/05/2006 1:56:30 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: StJacques

I'm waiting for the ACLU to go down to Mexico and try to file a lawsuit for "separation of church and state". LOL!


5 posted on 07/05/2006 2:01:37 PM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: StJacques

Carlos Fuentes spent a considerable portion of his youth in the suburbs of DC. His father was Mexican ambassador to either Roosevelt or Truman.


6 posted on 07/05/2006 2:04:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (The CFR ate my bilderburgers! Time to call for a trilateral commission to investigate!)
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To: StJacques
the left in Mexico still sees the Catholic Church as the enemy of social progress in their country.

In so far as that "Social Progress" is a code word for Marxism, being seen as an enemy of such should be considered a badge of honour.

7 posted on 07/05/2006 2:07:20 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: StJacques

"...Lopez Obrador's natural voters, trust in nothing more than in the Virgin...."




What about Jesus?


8 posted on 07/05/2006 2:35:13 PM PDT by CBLJN
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To: StJacques
One is that Fuentes appears to be convinced that Calderón did win the election, which is the first statement I have seen by anyone who might be associated with Lopez Obrador's followers...

That may not be the case, unfortunately.

MEXICO CITY -(Dow Jones)- Mexico's leftist presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador holds a small lead in the final vote count being conducted by the Federal Electoral Institute, or IFE, based on results from 35.2% of polling stations, The Associated Press reported Wednesday afternoon.

Lopez Obrador, of the Democratic Revolution Party, or PRD, is ahead with 37.1%, while conservative Felipe Calderon of the ruling National Action Party, or PAN, has 34.3% of the vote, according to IFE.

Lopez Obrador leading Calderon in Mexican Vote Recount

Also...

...the Mexican newspaper El Universal is reporting that ObraGore leads 37.01%-34.53% with 62.61% in.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1660852/posts?page=11#11

9 posted on 07/05/2006 2:43:43 PM PDT by CedarDave (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: StJacques
In California, 57% of Mexican immigrants voted for the Catholic Calderón."

Wish we could count on the Mexicans to vote their faith when they vote in our own country's elections.

14 posted on 07/05/2006 4:17:02 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: StJacques

"No matter where they are, the Left just cannot come to grips with that most basic human need to express faith."

That's only to be expected, when one reflects that leftism is of and from Satan.


29 posted on 07/05/2006 7:35:03 PM PDT by dsc
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To: StJacques

Thanks for posting this. Definitely Fuentes is a leftie and saddened by the masses' voting for Calderon, being 'swayed' by believers -- that is my read. I am pleaseed that Calderon won.


32 posted on 07/05/2006 8:30:33 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: StJacques
Fuentes is a longtime, Marxist hack and literary pretender who is noteworthy for being a longtime parasite of Mexican society.

He makes his living by denigrating free societies and religious faith.
Needless to say, he has been a great admirer and hand-kisser of Fidel C.
34 posted on 07/06/2006 5:10:03 AM PDT by mtntop3
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I didn't catch the undercurrent of disdain myself. I liked what he said. Calderon came across as Catholic and Mexicans appreciated that. I watched the election from Tijuana and all the very poor people I met told me they too voted for Calderon - because he was religious and because they thought he'd get tough on crime.


40 posted on 08/17/2006 10:49:09 PM PDT by Bangupjob
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