To: StJacques
One is that Fuentes appears to be convinced that Calderón did win the election, which is the first statement I have seen by anyone who might be associated with Lopez Obrador's followers...That may not be the case, unfortunately.
MEXICO CITY -(Dow Jones)- Mexico's leftist presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador holds a small lead in the final vote count being conducted by the Federal Electoral Institute, or IFE, based on results from 35.2% of polling stations, The Associated Press reported Wednesday afternoon.
Lopez Obrador, of the Democratic Revolution Party, or PRD, is ahead with 37.1%, while conservative Felipe Calderon of the ruling National Action Party, or PAN, has 34.3% of the vote, according to IFE.
Lopez Obrador leading Calderon in Mexican Vote Recount
Also...
...the Mexican newspaper El Universal is reporting that ObraGore leads 37.01%-34.53% with 62.61% in.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1660852/posts?page=11#11
9 posted on
07/05/2006 2:43:43 PM PDT by
CedarDave
(When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
To: CedarDave; All
Dave, those results only reflect the order in which the official reports filed containing votes from individual vote reports from districts (actual Spanish term is casillas or "squares") have been tallied in the "certified" count, the one we heard this Sunday was the "preliminary" count. The thing you look for in those numbers is evidence of a turnaround from the preliminary count in Lopez Obrador's favor. I did read that there have been some small alterations, but nothing significant, and I was on the El Universal site this morning.
Let me go and find the current report on El Universal I can use to give you translated excerpts that will clear this up. Back in a second.
To: CedarDave
Ok Dave, this is translated from:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/360296.html
I'll put up the whole translation here (in bold print):
"
As of 4:29 p.m. Lopez Obrador has 36.91% of the votes; Felipe Calderón 34.6%. They do not show any tendency. . . ."
My note: The Spanish here is
No marcan ninguna tendencia. The subject "they" which would be "ellos" if it were written is understood in this grammatical construct and refers to the antecedent subject just discussed, which are the two candidates named. This means no overall changes have been shown.
"
The calculations available as of now from the 300 District Councils show an electoral advantage for the presidential candidate of the For the Good of All coalition Andrés Manuel Lopez Obrador.
It is necessary to emphasize that the results can change at any time and that therefore they do not mark any tendency.
At 4:29 p.m., with 65.68% of the blocs computed within the 300 Electoral Districts of the country, a tendency of presidential voting in favor of the flagbearer of the For the Good of All coalition is registered.
My note: The key word here is "registered" which indicates "certified."
The numbers that the District Councils sent until 4:29 p.m. are as follows:
-- 65.68% of squares computed.
Presidential Candidates:
Andrés Manuel Lopez Obrador: 36.91%
Felipe Calderón: 34.6%
Roberto Madrazo: 21.94%
Patricia Mercado: 2.73%
Roberto Campa: 0.93 %
If any of the "blocs" (summary reports of ballot boxes) had shown different vote totals than were reported in the preliminary count that would be very significant because the actual votes (Spanish is "
acta" ['act' as a verb] since a voter must swear he or she is who he or she claims to be when turning in a vote and having their name registered as having voted) are sealed once they are counted in the presence of all political parties and an agreement on their totals is reached. Under Mexican law they cannot reopen the sealed "blocs" (
casillas) to get at the individual votes (
actas) unless a discrepancy is shown between the summary reports tallied in the preliminary count and that of the officially-certified count, unless there is some recognizable damage to or alteration of the document of the summary report.
What does this all mean? If there were discrepancies between the originally-reported vote summaries and those being certified today it would be front-page news in Mexico. Believe me on this.
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