Fire Thunder Impeached (Oglala Sioux President impeached over abortion clinic)

Indian Country Today ^ | June 30th, 2006 | David Melmer

[kingu]

The challenge will be mostly based upon a lack of notice; hard to serve notice when she intentionally stays away from the reservation and the council just to justify this lack of notice in her challenge. Nothing is like Indian politics, and it was just yet another dirty trick on her part, part of a string of them that has highlighted her entire term in office.

[CondorFlight]

"met the anti-abortion movement and lost."

Rather, she met her people, and lost.

[wideawake]

Interesting - she was basically hoping to remain president of the Oglala Sioux while campaigning for there to be fewer Oglala Sioux.

[Jeff Head]

God bless the Oglala Sioux for not giving this horrific holocaust any place amongst them, and for showing this woman the door for her suggestion that they should.

[The Old Hoosier]

If I were an Indian, watching my people slowly disappear, I would be pretty p'd off about attempts to put an abortuary on my reservation.

[zerosix]

BINGO!

Way to go pro-life Sioux. Now maybe you might also have corruption-free elections in '06 and '08.

[quark]

Never send a squaw to do a brave's job.

[mockingbyrd]

Absolutely!

[sockmonkey]

God Bless the Oglala Sioux for booting this woman who would kill her own people for profit.

Catholic Ping.

[kingu]

Never send a squaw to do a brave's job.

The biggest force behind her impeachment came from the older women on the reservation who were in horror at the concept of a planned parenthood clinic taking up residence.

[Cinnamon]

exactly.. liberalism doesn't have a place in Indian country.. Indians are very much in connection with nature.

[Southack]

"it was just yet another dirty trick on her part, part of a string of them that has highlighted her entire term in office."

Abortionists/leftists are full of such tricks.

[kingu]

Abortionists/leftists are full of such tricks.

More along the lines of corruption - the clinic was going to be a great slush fund for Fire Thunder, and probably will be her prime funding for the next election cycle. 'Give me money, I'll fight for your cause,' will be her battle cry - meanwhile, she'll take the on reservation stance of wanting a clinic for women's health, that it was never intended for abortions, etc.

I'd be hardly surprised if she got re-elected - it depends on how many voters she can bribe, and what wackos stand up to go against her.

[thiscouldbemoreconfusing]

dittos Jeff

[elhombrelibre]

Actually, the Democrats have the same dilemma. The more their supporters abort, the fewer offspring their supporters have, the more difficult it is to find receptive audiences for their wacky ideas. They're reaping what they've sown. The dumbing down of their supporters allows them all to miss the obvious consequences of being against having progeny.

[geezerwheezer]

Seems as if Ms. Fire Thunder got short-circuited and rained out as Chief of the Sioux. They figured out she was shockingly all wet! Good for them.

[pepperdog]

I thought the same thing. I don't know about the Oglala Sioux but many of the plains Indians women have a hard time conceiving.

[untrained skeptic]

Rather, she met her people, and lost.

Yep, and in a state of denial she's now accusing them of not paying attention.

She claims that "ideas" aren't punishable, but she didn't just put forth an idea, she solicited donations to build the clinic.

She also didn't present her ideas to the council before doing so.

Over two-thirds of the council felt she deserved to be impeached. They didn't simply disagree with her. They didn't simply want to convince her to change her course of action. Over two-thirds felt that she needed to be removed from office.

That's a very harsh denouncement of her actions.

She can play her legal games, but there doesn't seem to be any chance she's be able to build this "clinic" or that she'd win reelection.

Other than some whining about how unfair it all is, her political career appears to be over.

[redgolum]

Heard about this from my inlaws in S.D.

Most of the Indians are fairly Christian. Doubt her attempt went over well.

[50sDad]

Asked if abortion was the real reason for her impeachment, she said ''I don't know what's motivating them. For a lot of them, they have personal stuff against me. They were not paying attention,'' Fire Thunder said.

Every time a Liberal fails at the polls, it is never "Gee, maybe what I think is radically out of line with a majority of the voters, and I should consider what they want." It is always "we failed to get our message across, we didn't spend enough to get the answers to the people, we need to do a better job of communicating with the voters." Boy, for every Lib I have heard who's peeved that Bush is "arrogant", there is nobody more arrogant that a Liberal. Clearly, if they have lost the Senate, House, Presidency, most Governerships, and chunks of the Supreme Court, it's just that we morons in Flyover Country are too dumb to understand how wonderful and right they are!

(And Bush's swagger is that of a man convinced, iron-clad, that he is right...that's what really drives them mad. He doesn't see the world in a million shades of gray that have to be examined, evaluated, and moaned over. It's called confidence in one's beliefs, and it drives them crazy!)