Posted on 07/04/2006 9:54:31 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
Heres what I want to know, and heres why I want to know it. At what point in history, exactly, did the Pew Center decide that it knew how to measure world opinion?
I ask this because almost every week I seem to read a study of how the rest of the globe thinks (or at any rate feels) about the United States. The polls in this country are unreliable enough and are often used to measure intangibles, such as approval ratings, which is why there is so much fluctuation within and between them. But whos doing the random samples in Somalia and Tajikistan and Ecuador?
I ask because these polls tend to inform Americans that the rest of the world has a decidedly low view of them. That this is true in large parts of the Middle East, and among large swathes of European intellectuals, is something that I can already tell you from experience.
For that matter, it was at one point true that the majority of Pakistanis, say, believed not just that all Jews had left the World Trade Center on time, but that (therefore) they had all reported for work on time, hung around for a bit presumably whistling and wearing unconcerned expressions and only then left; doubtless offering some clever Semitic excuse. Not even al-Qaidas pilots had as exact a schedule as that.
Nonetheless, and despite the absurdity and hysteria of much of what is said and believed, we seem almost ready for a poll of Americans on what they think the rest of the world thinks of them in opinion polls, where the finding would be that most of those Americans polled think that most other people polled think they stink.
There are several possible responses to this.
One of them no doubt to be found in the presumed red states is to say who gives a flying flip? Another is not to surrender to impressionism, and to do some work of ones own.
Large numbers in India, for example (another multiethnic federal and secular democracy), report highly favorable views of the U.S.
A very important poll in Iran (where polling is illegal) found that a huge majority of Iranians considered better relations with America to be the single most urgent priority. One of those who conducted the survey was a former American embassy hostage-taker, who was jailed for publishing his findings.
Then there is the question of method. Polling in the U.S. depends on finding a lot of people who are identifiable by name, and at home in their kitchens when the poll-taker calls. How is this feat replicated in the Andes, say, or in the Congo? Who pays for the work? When is it decided that the time is right?
For example, I am quite certain that an opinion poll of any kind, taken in the Muslim world in 1992, would have discovered enormous resentment at the failure of the United States to intervene militarily in Bosnia. But this ingredient in the famous mixture of Islamic grievances is seldom, if ever, mentioned, and certainly wasnt head-counted at the time. As a result of that just and necessary intervention, large numbers of Orthodox Christians, not just in Serbia, now record strongly anti-American opinions. Which goes to show that you cant please everybody.
It also goes to show that you probably shouldnt try. A country that attempted to be in everybodys good books would be quite paralyzed. The last time everybody said they liked the United States (or said that they said they liked the United States) was just after Sept. 11, when the nation was panicked and traumatized and trying to count its dead. Well, no thanks. This is too high a price to be paid for being popular.
Measurements of opinion are in any event static, and they assume passivity, and a consensus upon knowledge. If you had asked people in 2001 whether they thought it was likely that Afghans and Iraqis would be holding free elections in a couple of years (not that any polling group ever did even suggest such a question), I doubt you would have got a very good response. And how, in any case, could people have known enough to know what they were supposedly talking about?
If I was to interrupt this article every few sentences, asking you whether or not I was making a good impression on you, I hope and believe that you would think I was a servile jerk. Yet this is what our politicians are doing in every speech (most notably in the absurd recent debate on flag-burning) and this is apparently what we hire Karen Hughes to do in our public diplomacy.
Faced with a complete beast like the late Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, who has been trying to kill us for several years, millions of Americans appear to believe that he only appeared in Iraq because in some way we made him upset. Well, even if this was true which it is not it wouldnt be such a bad thing. (What would you say to a policy that made him contented, instead?).
Thus, for a Fourth of July message, I would suggest less masochism, more confidence on the American street, and less nervous reliance on paper majorities discovered by paper organizations.
Happy Independence Day.
Nope . I don't see too many Americans immigrating to Cuba either. I can't imagine why. Jimmy Carter loves the place.
Why don't the liberal Americans immigrate there, since they think Bush is Hitler, and America is such a terrible place to live?
...we seem almost ready for a poll of Americans on what they think the rest of the world thinks of them in opinion polls, where the finding would be that most of those Americans polled think that most other people polled think they stink.
...A country that attempted to be in everybodys good books would be quite paralyzed. The last time everybody said they liked the United States (or said that they said they liked the United States) was just after Sept. 11, when the nation was panicked and traumatized and trying to count its dead. Well, no thanks. This is too high a price to be paid for being popular.
...Faced with a complete beast like the late Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, who has been trying to kill us for several years, millions of Americans appear to believe that he only appeared in Iraq because in some way we made him upset. Well, even if this was true which it is not it wouldnt be such a bad thing. (What would you say to a policy that made him contented, instead?).
Thus, for a Fourth of July message, I would suggest less masochism, more confidence on the American street, and less nervous reliance on paper majorities discovered by paper organizations.
Happy Independence Day.
Nailed It!
Moral Clarity BUMP !
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Here's a poll I want to see: How many Americans actually care what other people think of us?
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Hitchens on Polls.
less nervous reliance on paper majorities discovered by paper organizations.
Priceless!!!
I knew you'd appreciate it as soon as Pew Center came up. Hitchens nailed it. :-)
Polls are difficult - my guess? Pew's lying. Their poll results outside the US uphold liberal preconceived notions... The chances of that being true - is statistically insignificant...
Uh oh.....you are getting to know me too well. LOL!
Would that it were still true. The innocence of that age, that is.
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